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John 10:16
biblebuf:
--- Quote from: dan p on January 12, 2012, 11:39:22 am --- Hi , and a question for you !!
#1 , Are we saved by Grace Eph 2:8 ??
#2 , Or are saved by being Grafted into to an Olive Tree ?
#3 , Does being Grafted into the Olive , NEGATE 1 Cor 12:13 , where the Holy Spirit BAPTIZO/PLACES all believers n9into the Body of Christ ??
Rom 11:17 is yet Future as Rom 11:25 reveals !!!!
dan p
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You are grafted onto the Olive Tree and are joined to the promiss at the time your receive God's grace.
--- Quote from: Christ ---John 17:20 I pray not only for these, but also for those who believe in Me through their message. 21 May they all be one, as You, Father, are in Me and I am in You. May they also be one in Us, so the world may believe You sent Me.
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dan p:
Hi , and what believers fail to see , is that Israel was set aside at the Cross and to day the message is the Grace of God as Acts 20:24 revealed to Paul .
Rom 11:21 did not spare Israel and were set aside , and any Gentiles that is grafted in can also be cut out .
Glad to say that we are " in Christ " which you ahve failed to see and are NOT in and Olive Tree .
The Body of Christ is not called an Olive Tree < period , dan p
biblebuf:
--- Quote from: dan p on January 12, 2012, 12:27:20 pm --- Hi , and what believers fail to see , is that Israel was set aside at the Cross and to day the message is the Grace of God as Acts 20:24 revealed to Paul .
Rom 11:21 did not spare Israel and were set aside , and any Gentiles that is grafted in can also be cut out .
Glad to say that we are " in Christ " which you ahve failed to see and are NOT in and Olive Tree .
The Body of Christ is not called an Olive Tree < period , dan p
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"For I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this mystery, lest you be wise in your own estimation, that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fulness of the Gentiles has come in; 26 and thus all Israel will be saved; just as it is written,“The Deliverer will come from Zion. He will remove ungodliness from Jacob.” 27 “And this is My covenant with them, when I take away their sins.” 28 From the standpoint of the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but from the standpoint of God’s choice they are beloved for the sake of the fathers; 29 for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable," (Rom. 11:25-29).
Is your God a liar? If Israel is saved will they not be part of the body? John 17
dan p:
Hi , and there was never a covenant ever given to Gentiles and Eph 2:12 says so , and your verses above are MOOT !! DAN P
biblebuf:
--- Quote from: dan p on January 12, 2012, 12:47:36 pm --- Hi , and there was never a covenant ever given to Gentiles and Eph 2:12 says so , and your verses above are MOOT !! DAN P
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genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed ; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel."
genesis 12:3 And I will bless those who bless you, And the one who curses you I will curse. And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed."
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