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Who Are The Angels?

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Fat:
The problem here is that you cause the Bible to come into conflict with itself. You also have taken upon yourself to say that you understand eternity, that is not so for is an impossibility of the human mind. I will not dispute that the church was formed before the foundation of the earth or God's elect were known to him before the creation of world. I put to you that time is invention of God to help us understand the sequence of events. Time means nothing to our Lord, He is in the beginning, in the present and in the future all simultaneously. There is no timeline for Him.
You make the claim God knew you in heaven and that you were once an angel apparently residing there, but the scriptures tell us that you have never seen God nor have you been to heaven. That is a conflict which cannot stand and you must resolve it.
The flaw that you claim we have is exactly what you were doing. You're selecting versus in an attempt to justify a belief and not looking at the scriptures as a whole.
If your God did not know me before I came into existence then you have a weak, I repeat a weak God.

Why don't you start the beginning at the creation of Adam who is formed from dust. If you notice before God created Adam he created the animals, those animals were not animal angels. There is no indication that Adam had previously been created, or that he was transformed from a spiritual being to a fleshly being. And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being. You were adding to the Scriptures when you claim and Adam previously existed as an angel. You're literally making stuff up. You can make the Bible say anything you want to by cherry picking as you were doing here, this is not studying the Bible it is trashing the Bible.

On a side note I like to tell you that the translation of King James is a flawed translation. If I were you I would find a more modern English translation to rely upon.

macuser:
 
--- Quote ---Look at the definition of 'I knew' in the verse and tell me what GOD is saying. If you say that GOD knew Jeremiah because HE is all powerful and knows the future and everything, then you are starting your own cult. I would have to say that you are no different than mormons.
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Oh gee,  and I thought the Christ wrote the book of revelation, Oh what a fool I am. Yes I see your point it must be John who knows the future of Everything, wow thanks for setting me straight.

unknownservant:
Hi Macuser,

You are a dangerous type. You make sarcasm out of my meaning. Of course GOD knows everything, but GOD says what HE means and means what HE says. In Jeremiah, GOD said HE knew Jeremiah by seeing, recognizing and so on, mean by familiarity. That means GOD is saying that Jeremiah was there with HIM. The same goes for Esau. You are likely blinded. I suggest you read what I said over and over in the comment on Jeremiah and Esau and as GOD to let you see it.
But humble yourself. If you don't humble yourself, you are likely not going to see it. If you don't see it, then you will have a long road to go in the Millennium.

Also, in the last post, I requested that we be friendly (not sarcastic or otherwise). Let GOD'S WORD speak for itself.

Bob:

--- Quote from: unknownservant ---Look at the definition of 'I knew' in the verse and tell me what GOD is saying. If you say that GOD knew Jeremiah because HE is all powerful and knows the future and everything, then you are starting your own cult. I would have to say that you are no different than mormons.
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--- Quote from: unknownservant on January 21, 2015, 06:18:04 pm ---Hi Macuser,

You are a dangerous type. You make sarcasm out of my meaning. Of course GOD knows everything, but GOD says what HE means and means what HE says. In Jeremiah, GOD said HE knew Jeremiah by seeing, recognizing and so on, mean by familiarity. That means GOD is saying that Jeremiah was there with HIM. The same goes for Esau. You are likely blinded. I suggest you read what I said over and over in the comment on Jeremiah and Esau and as GOD to let you see it.
But humble yourself. If you don't humble yourself, you are likely not going to see it. If you don't see it, then you will have a long road to go in the Millennium.

Also, in the last post, I requested that we be friendly (not sarcastic or otherwise). Let GOD'S WORD speak for itself.

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  :'(  Sad.

Hello unknownservant
I agree with Fat, you should start again in your study with Adam first. We are seeds of Adam, do you agree? If not, please explain why man was condemn because of his action and even the elect needed a way to be washed from his sin?
Do you agree that the Scriptures are not in conflict? Does your God have physical limitations like not being able to be in two places at once or two times at once?
Is Jesus the brother of Satan? Is Jesus the arch Angel Michael? Is Jesus a created being?

Bob

unknownservant:
Hi Bob,

JESUS is GOD in the flesh. HE was not created, HE is The Creator of ALL things.
When you are speaking of Adam, you are speaking of man in the flesh. The flesh is a veil. The veil was needed so that man could come back to GOD or at least have a chance to do that without prior knowledge. Please, if you guys can just read one verse of scripture and take it for what it says and forget about all those cults and deceivers out there, you might be able to see what GOD is telling us. Why is it always attacks and accusations about being a part of some dumb cult that is out there to get your money and to steal your soul that people stoop too. All I'm asking is that you debate me with a scripture and tell me what the scripture says. If you can't win (and you can't), then open up to the Truth! It's the end time, can you at least look at it and see that maybe I was led here for a reason?
Beat me with scripture! I challenge you to do that! If you don't, it is because you can't!

Sorry for getting a little hyper, I just care about you guys.

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