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A mortal has 0 right to tell another--you are saved
macuser:
--- Quote from: kjw47 on March 05, 2015, 12:47:28 pm ---
Every one knows--being one means in purpose.
As well the Father has to give one to Jesus. The real Jesus--there are different ones being taught in this world--- many false teachers-2Cor 11:12-15--- as I am showing the ones telling another you are saved or born again fit into that category. Because they do not know.
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No, actually you're saying that Jesus is a liar.
John 10:28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. "My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.
In the JW spin book how long is eternal life? When Jesus says no one is able to snatch them does that include the devil?
kjw47:
--- Quote from: macuser on March 05, 2015, 02:51:42 pm ---No, actually you're saying that Jesus is a liar.
John 10:28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. "My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.
In the JW spin book how long is eternal life? When Jesus says no one is able to snatch them does that include the devil?
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You misunderstand that statement---Judas was snatched away--an elite apostle=anointed--these many will be snatched away--Matt 7:22-23--Jesus is obviously speaking of those who run the race with endurance and endure till the end-- As Jesus taught--only those who are living now to do the Fathers will, get to enter his kingdom-Matt 7:21--many are being told by false teachers they are saved--Jesus is showing them they are not unless they do Matt 7:21
macuser:
--- Quote from: kjw47 on March 06, 2015, 11:46:07 am ---
You misunderstand that statement---Judas was snatched away--an elite apostle=anointed--these many will be snatched away--Matt 7:22-23--Jesus is obviously speaking of those who run the race with endurance and endure till the end-- As Jesus taught--only those who are living now to do the Fathers will, get to enter his kingdom-Matt 7:21--many are being told by false teachers they are saved--Jesus is showing them they are not unless they do Matt 7:21
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if you take the time to read the verses you post you'll see that Mat 7:22. Jesus tells them that He NEVER I REPEAT NEVER knew them.
you are arguing with God's word, not me .
kjw47:
--- Quote from: macuser on March 06, 2015, 12:12:59 pm ---if you take the time to read the verses you post you'll see that Mat 7:22. Jesus tells them that He NEVER I REPEAT NEVER knew them.
you are arguing with God's word, not me .
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Exactly--Jesus never knew them--so ask yourself--who on earth does powerful works in Jesus name? and excorcism,s, and prophesy in Jesus, name?--ones who think they have a great love for Jesus, that is who--those who are told they are Christian, but Jesus is telling them that they are not true followers. their teachers are false, ( 2Cor 11:12-15)misleading them.
I am not arguing, I am stating facts.
biblebuf:
--- Quote from: kjw47 on March 06, 2015, 03:01:00 pm ---
Exactly--Jesus never knew them--so ask yourself--who on earth does powerful works in Jesus name? and excorcism,s, and prophesy in Jesus, name?--ones who think they have a great love for Jesus, that is who--those who are told they are Christian, but Jesus is telling them that they are not true followers. their teachers are false, ( 2Cor 11:12-15)misleading them.
I am not arguing, I am stating facts.
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