Losing Salvation or Never Saved at All? — J.C. Ryle

[JB Horn]

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One doesn't receive salvation for works--one receives salvation for a strong living faith built by works--As James taught a faith without the works is dead--- do you understand this?-James is telling you ones faith is worthless unless built up by works.

Israel has been cut off of being Gods chosen-Matt 23:37-38--and given to others-Matt 21:43---John referred to them as Israel but it actually is spiritual Israel--carrying the biblical meaning--Gods chosen. Not 1 rejector of Jesus will enter Gods kingdom let alone be assigned as kings and priests by his side. teachers of darkness have no understanding of reality. Israel has rejected the Messiah for over 1950 years. Revelation has much symbolism in it.

Hebrews 12:2 fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Faith comes from the hearing of the gospel of Christ, and what you JW's miss is that works are an act of love not an act of duty. There are other cults that teach as you, LDS, and the COR for instance. The all claim to be the remnant church.

Romans 10:8 But what does it say? "THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, in your mouth and in your heart "-that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, 9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, "WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED." 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; 13 for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED." 14 How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher? 15 How will they preach unless * they are sent? Just as it is written, "HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THOSE WHO BRING GOOD NEWS OF GOOD THINGS!" 16 However, they did not all heed the good news; for Isaiah says, "LORD, WHO HAS BELIEVED OUR REPORT?" 17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.

Speaking of the matter of replacing of Israel by JW's

Luke 21:24 and they will fall by the edge of the sword, and will be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled under foot by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

The time of the gentiles will come to an end.

As to your Jesus who you claim is Michael the Archangel, if there is no Trinity you have a major problem:

18 A ruler questioned Him, saying, "Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?" 19 And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone.

JB

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Hebrews 12:2 fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Faith comes from the hearing of the gospel of Christ, and what you JW's miss is that works are an act of love not an act of duty. There are other cults that teach as you, LDS, and the COR for instance. The all claim to be the remnant church.

Speaking of the matter of replacing of Israel by JW's The time of the gentiles will come to an end.

As to your Jesus who you claim is Michael the Archangel, if there is no Trinity you have a major problem:

JB

It is a guaranteed fact--there is no trinity in existence--those who serve it are being mislead.
The gospel of Christ isn't taught in any building called a church--I attended different ones years ago, The only teachers I ever found who teach Jesus' truths are the JW teachers.
These believe in Jesus, do powerful works, prophesy--yet Jesus says he never even knew them( judgement scenario)-Matt 7:22,23-- believing is a partial truth, other realities go along with believing--like verse 21 shows--only those living to do the Fathers will get to enter his kingdom.

[kjw47]

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Yes  and works without faith is also dead.

Your attempt to take scripture out of context is sad but typical. You stop and left out verse 39:
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. (Matthew‬ 23‬:37-39‬ KJV)

As in the past God's people come back to Him.
God tells us to for give those who trespass against us as many times as the ask us to, is God less than man?
You're teaching against the bible you claim to love.

BB

Yes out of Gods great love he left the door open to Israel--they must accept Jesus as the Messiah--they have refused for over 1950 years. And you think all of a sudden they will change their minds? or hearts that is?
Fact--some have left the Jewish faith and have accepted Jesus as the messiah--Paul-Peter and many back then did--but the reality--they left the Jewish faith to follow Jesus.

[JB Horn]

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It is a guaranteed fact--there is no trinity in existence--those who serve it are being mislead.
The gospel of Christ isn't taught in any building called a church--I attended different ones years ago, The only teachers I ever found who teach Jesus' truths are the JW teachers.
These believe in Jesus, do powerful works, prophesy--yet Jesus says he never even knew them( judgement scenario)-Matt 7:22,23-- believing is a partial truth, other realities go along with believing--like verse 21 shows--only those living to do the Fathers will get to enter his kingdom.

Agree there is no building called the church and there is no lord called the watchtower of kingdom hall.

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Yes out of Gods great love he left the door open to Israel--they must accept Jesus as the Messiah--they have refused for over 1950 years. And you think all of a sudden they will change their minds? or hearts that is?
Fact--some have left the Jewish faith and have accepted Jesus as the messiah--Paul-Peter and many back then did--but the reality--they left the Jewish faith to follow Jesus.

The bible says it will happen (do you believe the bible) JB already pointed out to you, Luke 21:24. Why do you think the 144,000 are all Jews? you think they are will be preaching to the gentiles?