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No será el trabajo del hombre para hacerse honrado
« on: January 15, 2017, 05:30:21 pm »
"¿Puede el etíope cambiar su piel O el leopardo sus puntos? Entonces también puede hacer bien Quienes se acostumbran a hacer el mal..”
Jeremiah 13:23 NAS


Note aquí que el etíope no puede cambiar su piel, ni pueden los puntos de cambios del leopardo. Por tanto lo que el Señor nos dice es que el hombre depravado no puede cambiar su naturaleza y hacerse una fuerza de bien. Los hombres por supuesto depravados pueden hacer de vez en cuando cosas buenas pero son hombres todavía depravados. Como el leopardo y el etíope el hombre depravado nunca se puede cambiar, pero todavía hay la esperanza porque han dado al Espíritu Santo la autoridad para regenerar almas y corazón de ese hombre depravado. No será el trabajo del hombre para hacerse honrado, será el trabajo de Dios para hacer a un hombre honrado.



Matthew 19:24-28 (NAS)
24 "Otra vez digo a usted, es más fácil para un camello pasar por el ojo de una aguja, que para un hombre rico para entrar en el Reino de Dios". 25 Cuando los discípulos oyeron esto, muy se sorprendieron y dijeron, "¿Entonces quién se puede salvar?" 26 Y mirarlos Jesús dicho a ellos, "Con la gente esto es imposible, pero con Dios todas las cosas son posibles".

27 Entonces Peter dicho a Él, "Contemplan, hemos dejado todo y le hemos seguido; ¿qué entonces estará allí para nosotros?" 28 Y Jesús dicho a ellos, "Realmente digo a usted, que usted que me ha seguido, en la regeneración cuando el Hijo del Hombre se sentará en Su trono glorioso, también se debe sentar sobre doce tronos, juzgando las doce tribus de Israel.





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Re: No será el trabajo del hombre para hacerse honrado
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2017, 08:37:34 am »
"¿Puede el etíope cambiar su piel O el leopardo sus puntos? Entonces también puede hacer bien Quienes se acostumbran a hacer el mal..”
Jeremiah 13:23 NAS


Note aquí que el etíope no puede cambiar su piel, ni pueden los puntos de cambios del leopardo. Por tanto lo que el Señor nos dice es que el hombre depravado no puede cambiar su naturaleza y hacerse una fuerza de bien. Los hombres por supuesto depravados pueden hacer de vez en cuando cosas buenas pero son hombres todavía depravados. Como el leopardo y el etíope el hombre depravado nunca se puede cambiar, pero todavía hay la esperanza porque han dado al Espíritu Santo la autoridad para regenerar almas y corazón de ese hombre depravado. No será el trabajo del hombre para hacerse honrado, será el trabajo de Dios para hacer a un hombre honrado.



Matthew 19:24-28 (NAS)
24 "Otra vez digo a usted, es más fácil para un camello pasar por el ojo de una aguja, que para un hombre rico para entrar en el Reino de Dios". 25 Cuando los discípulos oyeron esto, muy se sorprendieron y dijeron, "¿Entonces quién se puede salvar?" 26 Y mirarlos Jesús dicho a ellos, "Con la gente esto es imposible, pero con Dios todas las cosas son posibles".

27 Entonces Peter dicho a Él, "Contemplan, hemos dejado todo y le hemos seguido; ¿qué entonces estará allí para nosotros?" 28 Y Jesús dicho a ellos, "Realmente digo a usted, que usted que me ha seguido, en la regeneración cuando el Hijo del Hombre se sentará en Su trono glorioso, también se debe sentar sobre doce tronos, juzgando las doce tribus de Israel.


Tongues and Prophecy

1 Cor.14:1: "Let love be your highest goal! But you should also desire the special abilities the Spirit gives—especially the ability to prophesy. 2 For if you have the ability to speak in tongues,[a] you will be talking only to God, since people won’t be able to understand you. You will be speaking by the power of the Spirit, but it will all be mysterious. 3 But one who prophesies strengthens others, encourages them, and comforts them. 4 A person who speaks in tongues is strengthened personally, but one who speaks a word of prophecy strengthens the entire church.

5 I wish you could all speak in tongues, but even more I wish you could all prophesy. For prophecy is greater than speaking in tongues, unless someone interprets what you are saying so that the whole church will be strengthened.

6 Dear brothers and sisters,[c] if I should come to you speaking in an unknown language,[d] how would that help you? But if I bring you a revelation or some special knowledge or prophecy or teaching, that will be helpful. 7 Even lifeless instruments like the flute or the harp must play the notes clearly, or no one will recognize the melody. 8 And if the bugler doesn’t sound a clear call, how will the soldiers know they are being called to battle?

9 It’s the same for you. If you speak to people in words they don’t understand, how will they know what you are saying? You might as well be talking into empty space.

10 There are many different languages in the world, and every language has meaning. 11 But if I don’t understand a language, I will be a foreigner to someone who speaks it, and the one who speaks it will be a foreigner to me. 12 And the same is true for you. Since you are so eager to have the special abilities the Spirit gives, seek those that will strengthen the whole church.

13 So anyone who speaks in tongues should pray also for the ability to interpret what has been said. 14 For if I pray in tongues, my spirit is praying, but I don’t understand what I am saying.

15 Well then, what shall I do? I will pray in the spirit,[e] and I will also pray in words I understand. I will sing in the spirit, and I will also sing in words I understand. 16 For if you praise God only in the spirit, how can those who don’t understand you praise God along with you? How can they join you in giving thanks when they don’t understand what you are saying? 17 You will be giving thanks very well, but it won’t strengthen the people who hear you.

18 I thank God that I speak in tongues more than any of you. 19 But in a church meeting I would rather speak five understandable words to help others than ten thousand words in an unknown language.

20 Dear brothers and sisters, don’t be childish in your understanding of these things. Be innocent as babies when it comes to evil, but be mature in understanding matters of this kind. 21 It is written in the Scriptures[f]:

“I will speak to my own people
    through strange languages
    and through the lips of foreigners.
But even then, they will not listen to me,”[g]
    says the Lord.

22 So you see that speaking in tongues is a sign, not for believers, but for unbelievers. Prophecy, however, is for the benefit of believers, not unbelievers. 23 Even so, if unbelievers or people who don’t understand these things come into your church meeting and hear everyone speaking in an unknown language, they will think you are crazy. 24 But if all of you are prophesying, and unbelievers or people who don’t understand these things come into your meeting, they will be convicted of sin and judged by what you say. 25 As they listen, their secret thoughts will be exposed, and they will fall to their knees and worship God, declaring, “God is truly here among you.”


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Re: No será el trabajo del hombre para hacerse honrado
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2017, 10:49:16 am »

Tongues and Prophecy

1 Cor.14:1: "Let love be your highest goal! But you should also desire the special abilities the Spirit gives—especially the ability to prophesy. 2 For if you have the ability to speak in tongues,[a] you will be talking only to God, since people won’t be able to understand you. You will be speaking by the power of the Spirit, but it will all be mysterious. 3 But one who prophesies strengthens others, encourages them, and comforts them. 4 A person who speaks in tongues is strengthened personally, but one who speaks a word of prophecy strengthens the entire church.

5 I wish you could all speak in tongues, but even more I wish you could all prophesy. For prophecy is greater than speaking in tongues, unless someone interprets what you are saying so that the whole church will be strengthened.

6 Dear brothers and sisters,[c] if I should come to you speaking in an unknown language,[d] how would that help you? But if I bring you a revelation or some special knowledge or prophecy or teaching, that will be helpful. 7 Even lifeless instruments like the flute or the harp must play the notes clearly, or no one will recognize the melody. 8 And if the bugler doesn’t sound a clear call, how will the soldiers know they are being called to battle?

9 It’s the same for you. If you speak to people in words they don’t understand, how will they know what you are saying? You might as well be talking into empty space.

10 There are many different languages in the world, and every language has meaning. 11 But if I don’t understand a language, I will be a foreigner to someone who speaks it, and the one who speaks it will be a foreigner to me. 12 And the same is true for you. Since you are so eager to have the special abilities the Spirit gives, seek those that will strengthen the whole church.

13 So anyone who speaks in tongues should pray also for the ability to interpret what has been said. 14 For if I pray in tongues, my spirit is praying, but I don’t understand what I am saying.

15 Well then, what shall I do? I will pray in the spirit,[e] and I will also pray in words I understand. I will sing in the spirit, and I will also sing in words I understand. 16 For if you praise God only in the spirit, how can those who don’t understand you praise God along with you? How can they join you in giving thanks when they don’t understand what you are saying? 17 You will be giving thanks very well, but it won’t strengthen the people who hear you.

18 I thank God that I speak in tongues more than any of you. 19 But in a church meeting I would rather speak five understandable words to help others than ten thousand words in an unknown language.

20 Dear brothers and sisters, don’t be childish in your understanding of these things. Be innocent as babies when it comes to evil, but be mature in understanding matters of this kind. 21 It is written in the Scriptures[f]:

“I will speak to my own people
    through strange languages
    and through the lips of foreigners.
But even then, they will not listen to me,”[g]
    says the Lord.

22 So you see that speaking in tongues is a sign, not for believers, but for unbelievers. Prophecy, however, is for the benefit of believers, not unbelievers. 23 Even so, if unbelievers or people who don’t understand these things come into your church meeting and hear everyone speaking in an unknown language, they will think you are crazy. 24 But if all of you are prophesying, and unbelievers or people who don’t understand these things come into your meeting, they will be convicted of sin and judged by what you say. 25 As they listen, their secret thoughts will be exposed, and they will fall to their knees and worship God, declaring, “God is truly here among you.”


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Are you making fun of all the people around the world That do not speak English?

I don't remember any of the original transcripts of the scriptures being in English.

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Re: No será el trabajo del hombre para hacerse honrado
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2017, 09:16:27 pm »
Are you making fun of all the people around the world That do not speak English?

I don't remember any of the original transcripts of the scriptures being in English.

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Are you aware of the fact the material I posted that you quoted is exclusively from 1 Cor.14?  I suggest you read it.  The U.S.A. is still an English speaking nation, including the church.


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Re: No será el trabajo del hombre para hacerse honrado
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2017, 10:02:41 pm »
 If you would've paid attention you would've seen it was posted in English before it was posted in Spanish. Please don't post anymore my threads ,I would appreciate it thank you.

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Re: No será el trabajo del hombre para hacerse honrado
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2017, 10:36:44 pm »

Are you aware of the fact the material I posted that you quoted is exclusively from 1 Cor.14?  I suggest you read it.  The U.S.A. is still an English speaking nation, including the church.


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The web is international, so is the Church.

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Re: No será el trabajo del hombre para hacerse honrado
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2017, 07:08:55 am »
The web is international, so is the Church.

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Hello Admin. Dude,

Quite right.  All of whom are subject to the teachings of Jesus, Paul and all the authors of our Bible.  It is clear your site is for English speaking members, in an English speaking country, with our Bibles all printed in English.  The admonishment I gave came from Paul, with the admonishment to provide an interpretation for speaking in a foreign tongue, as edification for the Church.

If I have broken any of your rules for doing so, Please accept my apology, though I'm not aware of having done so.


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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2017, 09:48:04 am »
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You have broken no rules and neither has Fat. If you check the board you'll find many posts are in in other languages, most of them have  corresponding English post.  We Make the gospel available to as many people as we can.

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