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'SALVATION'
fredjames:
2 John :
9. Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of CHRIST, does not have GOD. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the FATHER and the SON.
10. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting,
11. for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works.
Therefore the church who do not abide in the teaching of CHRIST in the New Testament of the HOLY BIBLE, have not GOD, and are onto 'wicked works' themselves, as ones who do not bring this teaching accordingly likewise in testament. And the ones who greets them even, take part in their 'wicked works'.
Matthew 7:
21. "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord, will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, but the one who does the will of My FATHER who is in Heaven.
22. On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?'
23. And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness'
Hal:
--- Quote from: fredjames on February 11, 2018, 08:26:42 pm ---Matthew 28:
19. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the FATHER and of the SON and of the HOLY SPIRIT,
20. teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age."
Since JESUS had chose the Twelve and made them disciples through His teaching/word Himself, beginning from Matthew chapter 5 onward to Revelation, therefore He commissions them as Apostles make likewise disciples of 'all nations', consisting of scattered Jews and Gentiles alike. Mark and Luke were part of their 'fruit', among the churches, with the help of CHRIST JESUS and the HOLY SPIRIT in them. As disciples themselves, Mark and Luke likewise gave the other two testament of the Gospel, which began from Jerusalem by JESUS.
Therefore from the making disciples of all nations from that day forward, to the establishment of churches, even ones through the HOLY BIBLE today likewise, are to 'do' and 'abide' in the teaching of LORD JESUS CHRIST in the New Testament.
2 Timothy 3:
16. All Scripture is breathed out by GOD and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,
17. that the man of GOD may be competent, equipped for every good work.
1 John 2:
26. I write these things to you about those who are trying to deceive you.
27. But the anointing that you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone should teach you. But as His anointing teaches you about everything - and is true and is no lie, just as it has taught you - abide in Him.
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Did you ever consider why Christ change His instructions?
--- Quote ---Matt 10:2 These are the names of the twelve apostles: first, Simon (who is called Peter) and his brother Andrew; James son of Zebedee, and his brother John; 3 Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus; 4 Simon the Zealot and Judas Iscariot, who betrayed him. 5 These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: “Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. 6 Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel. 7 As you go, proclaim this message: ‘The kingdom of heaven has come near.’
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biblebuf:
--- Quote from: Hal on February 12, 2018, 12:03:25 am ---Did you ever consider why Christ change His instructions?
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Hal
A bigger question is, did the 12 disciples preached the same gospel as Paul's gospel? In other words, did the Jews received the good news of the gospel of grace through the cross, or were the Jews given the gospel of the kingdom without understanding of the cross? First Peter is about as close as I can find.
Peter also in 2 Peter recognizes the deference in Paul's gospel.
2 Peter 3:15 Also, regard the patience of our Lord as [an opportunity for] salvation, just as our dear brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you. 16 He speaks about these things in all his letters, in which there are some matters that are hard to understand. The untaught and unstable twist them to their own destruction, as they also do with the rest of the Scriptures.
The gospel of the kingdom of God VS the gospel of Grace. JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT
BB
fredjames:
--- Quote from: Hal on February 12, 2018, 12:03:25 am ---Did you ever consider why Christ change His instructions?
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CHRIST did not change His instruction, but rather meant, as according to your quotation, in the beginning from Jerusalem, instructing sending not only His chosen twelve, but also seventy two other followers of His, to go forth ahead of Him and bring the Good News of the Kingdom of GOD is at hand to, and deliver from oppression, the lost tribes of Israel first.
Did we as the church, neither Jews or Gentiles, in equality who supposedly 'abiding' according to the New Covenant teaching of CHRIST JESUS our LORD, by today having the 'All Scripture = HOLY BIBLE', and sound doctrine knowledge filled, spiritually considered that the Good News was suppose to go to the lost tribes of Israel first......??
And moreover have we not also considered according to the New Testament further, that the Jews were made 'partially harden', to reject the Good News, and have their MESSIAH crucified by the Gentiles(Romans), as according to GOD's will. And therefore from them, the Good News henceforth would go to the Gentiles in order for them to be saved as well......??
Romans 11:
25. Lest you(Gentiles) be wise in your own conceit, I want you to understand this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
26. And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written, "The deliverer will come from Zion, He will banish ungodliness from Jacob";
27. "and this will be covenant with them when I take away their sins."
28. As regards the Gospel, they are enemies of GOD for your sake(Gentiles sake). But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers.
29. For the gifts and calling of GOD are irrevocable.
30. Just as you(Gentiles) were at one time disobedient to GOD but now have received mercy because of their disobedience,
31. so they too have now been disobedient in order that by the mercy shown to you they also may now receive mercy.
32. For GOD has consigned all to disobedience, that HE may have mercy on all.
33. Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of GOD! How unsearchable are HIS judgements and how inscrutable HIS ways!
34. "For who as known the mind of the LORD, or who have been HIS counselor?"
35. "Or who has given a gift to HIM that HE might be repaid?"
36. For from HIM and through HIM and to HIM are all things. To HIM be Glory forever. Amen.
fredjames:
Brethren, before Apostle Paul were chosen as CHRIST JESUS our LORD's 'instrument', in order to carry His name;
Acts 9:
15. But the LORD said to him, "Go, for he is an chosen instrument of mine to carry my name before the Gentiles and kings and the children of Israel.
The eleven Apostles were instructed by the LORD, before even to Apostle Paul to carry His name, the exact same, to reach out to the people of all nations;
Matthew 28:
19. "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the FATHER and of the SON and of the HOLY SPIRIT,
30. teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age."
The 'Twelve Apostles' were preaching the same Gospel to all nations, consisting of Jews and Gentiles alike, and making disciples of them too. And therefore baptizing them in the name of the FATHER and of the SON and of the HOLY SPIRIT. While Apostle Paul on the other hand was teaching the extensive mystery and wisdom in relativeness to the Gospel as well, as his given Gospel.
Please let us not be wise in our own conceit as Gentiles, and be twat that there were two different Gospels preached and taught, one for the Jews and another for the Gentiles. And therefore the Gentiles must disregard CHRIST's teaching testified in the four Gospels, that were supposedly meant for the Jews....??
Apostle Paul also was to carry the LORD's name to the children of Israel, therefore how can the Gospel differ...??
Having the New Testament teaching of LORD JESUS CHRIST in the HOLY BIBLE today, i perceive and believe 'these' in whole, from according to Matthew's testament and to the Revelation of John's testament, even prior to 'epistles' written for the churches, were orally preached and taught and read to all their established, through CHRIST JESUS our LORD and the HOLY SPIRIT, churches. Taking turns themselves in visitation to all these established churches of CHRIST, or in their absence, by the chosen thirteen Apostles in service to built the church up. That is, as according to their distributed gifts and wisdom given them from above in regards the Gospel. Therefore together 'incorporate' them all as sound doctrine of their New Covenant faith in 'oneness', being circulated among them for doctrine. And also too in continuation, those who have taken after them, preached and taught and read the same to their churches henceforth, even after the thirteen's departure......
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