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SIN LAID ON JESUS - Isaiah 53:6

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Moss:
He propounds that splendid question, “Who shall lay anything to the charge of God’s elect?” There, where eternal Justice sits upon a flaming throne, the Apostle gazes with eyes undimmed into the ineffable splendor! And though someone seems to say, “The Judge will condemn,” he replies, “Who shall lay anything to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifies.” Can He justify and then condemn us? He justifies those for whom Christ died, for we are justified by His resurrection. How then shall He condemn?
And then he lifts up his voice yet again—“Who is he that condemns? It is Christ that died, yes, rather that is risen again, who sits at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.” On other grounds a man must feel unsafe, but here he may know himself sure! Go, you that will, and build upon your sandy foundations! Run up your superstructures till they are as high as Babel’s tower and tumble about your ears unable to support their own weight! But as for me, my soul shall rest upon this solid rock of Substitution! And clinging to the Rock with confident resolve, I know that I have no cause for fear since Jesus died for me!
4. Lastly, I desire to give you, as a subject for contemplation, and I pray you do not forget it, this question, “What, then, are the claims of Jesus Christ upon you and upon me? Brothers and Sisters, I have sometimes wished to be eloquent. Never when I had a cause to plead in which I was myself involved, but when I have had to speak for Jesus. But indeed, there is no need of eloquence here. Your hearts shall be the pleaders! His agonies shall be the plea! Did our blessed Lord take your sin, my Brothers and Sisters, and suffer all its terrific consequences for you so that you are delivered?
By His blood and wounds, by His death, and by the love that made Him die, I implore you treat Him as He should be treated! Love Him as He should be loved! Serve him as He should be served! You will tell me that you have obeyed His precepts. I am glad to hear it. Are you sure that you have? “If you love Me, keep My commandments.” Have you kept the ordinances as He delivered them? Have you sought to be obedient to Him in all respects?
In all your Lord’s appointed ways have you scrupulously pursued your journey? If you can say this I am not content. It does not seem to me that with such a leader as Christ, mere obedience should be all. Napoleon singularly enough had power to get the hearts of men twisted and twined about him. When he was in his wars there were many of his captains and even of his private soldiers who not only marched with the quick obedience of a soldier wherever they were bid, but who felt an enthusiasm for him!
Have you never heard of him who threw himself in the way of the shot to receive it in his bosom to save the Emperor? No obedience, no law could have required that of him—but enthusiastic love moved him to it. And it is such enthusiasm that my Master deserves in the very highest degree from us! It is out of and beyond all categories of law! It is far exceeding all that law ventured to ask, and yet not supererogation for all that, for you are not under the Law but under Grace! And you will do more out of love than you would have done out of the compulsion of demand.
What shall I do for my Master? What shall I do for my Lord? How shall I set Him forth? My Brothers and Sisters, my highest aim before God, next to the conversion of the unconverted among you, is that you who do love Christ may really love Him and act as if you do! I hope you will never become a dead cold church. Oh may my ministry never help to lull you into such a state as that! If Jesus Christ does not deserve everything of you He does not deserve anything! You do not know anything of His claims if you do not feel that—
“If you could make some reserve,
And duty did not call;
You’d love the Lord with zeal so great That you must give Him all.”
Christ stands for me! Oh may I learn to stand for Him, and plead for Him, and live for Him, and suffer for Him, and pray for Him, and preach and labor for Him as He may help me! May I remind you that each of you individually, as you all followed your own way and individually had some sin to increase that burden to pay Him individual service? Contribute of your substance to the common work of the Church, and do that constantly and as a matter of delight. Our College, which is doing so much service, greatly needs and demands the help of all who love our work, and love the Lord’s Truth. But in addition to that, do something for yourself—speak for Christ yourself—have some work in hand on your own account.
Do, I say again, at all times assist the work of the combined body, for that will be a great work, God being in us as our life and stay, and let no man withhold of his substance from Christ’s cause. But still that is not all. He does not ask your pocket only, but also your heart. It is not the pence, it is the activities of the soul! It is not the shillings and the guineas and so on, but it is your very inmost soul, the core of your spirit! O Christian, by the blood of Jesus devote yourself to Him again!
In the old Roman battles it sometimes happened that the strife seemed dubious, and a captain, inspired by superstitious patriotism, would stand upon his sword and devote himself to destruction for the good of his country. And then, according to those old legends, the battle always turned. Now, Brothers and Sisters, every one of you who have tasted that the Lord is gracious—devote yourselves this day to live, to die, to spend, and to be spent for King Jesus! You will be no fool, for no man ever had an ambition more worthy!
You will not be devoting yourself to One who does not deserve it. You know how much you owe Him! No, you do not know, to the fullest extent, the depth of your obligation. But you know you owe Him all that you have—your escape from Hell and your hope of Heaven! Follow me this morning in these verses—
“‘Tis done, the great transaction’s done! I am my Lord’s, and He is mine!
He drew me, and I followed on, Charmed to confess the voice Divine. Now rest, my long-divided heart.
Fixed on this blissful center rest.
With ashes who would grudge to part, When called on angel’s bread to feast? High Heaven, that heard the solemn vow, That vow renewed shall daily hear
Till in life’s latest hour I bow,
And bless in death a bond so dear.”
 

Isaiah9Six:
Hello Moss, I'm very pleased to be in an active forum. Very often I visit a site only to find out that the last person to post anything was 2 years ago. I read your reply and I wonder why you are not engaging in bible study. To reply to a post with a sermon that someone besides you preached is missing the mark if we're suppose to be engaged in bible study here, there are other sections to post sermons in.

I can only assume your reply is centered around Isaiah 53:6. That is the text minister Spurgeon preached from. I'm not sure what point you wish to make, the minister made quite a few statements concerning the topic of substitutionary atonement but that doesn't tell me what you are thinking about.

If you could pull some relevant points out of the sermon and reply with them I can get a better idea of the point you're trying to make.

Thanks

Moss:

--- Quote from: Isaiah9Six on December 23, 2018, 05:11:56 pm ---Hello Moss, I'm very pleased to be in an active forum. Very often I visit a site only to find out that the last person to post anything was 2 years ago. I read your reply and I wonder why you are not engaging in bible study. To reply to a post with a sermon that someone besides you preached is missing the mark if we're suppose to be engaged in bible study here, there are other sections to post sermons in.

I can only assume your reply is centered around Isaiah 53:6. That is the text minister Spurgeon preached from. I'm not sure what point you wish to make, the minister made quite a few statements concerning the topic of substitutionary atonement but that doesn't tell me what you are thinking about.

If you could pull some relevant points out of the sermon and reply with them I can get a better idea of the point you're trying to make.

Thanks

--- End quote ---

Take the time to read the sermon, it does not need my explanation. You should weigh Spurgeon words against Scripture. What is the study of the Bible if it is not the study of your relationship with your creator?

Isaiah9Six:
After reading Spurgeon’s sermon I feel it necessary to emphasis what this thread is about and not about. It’s not about whether or not Jesus took the responsibility of dealing with the sin problem that has plagued man since the Garden. I fully agree that Jesus took our sins away making it possible for God to offer forgiveness to anyone who by faith accepted the truth of the gospel and by faith acted upon that truth. It is however asking the question did Jesus take our place on the cross, die in our stead, suffer the guilt and punishment that rightly belonged to us, became a curse in our place, and did he do it all as a substitute for us.

This post came about because of a response I received while discussing was Jesus forsaken by the Father when he hung on the cross. The sky darkened for three hours and about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? That is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? It’s assumed by many, including Spurgeon that the reason was because Jesus was being cursed and punished. The sins of the world were literally on Jesus and because God is holy and could not be in the presence of sin he forsook Christ at that time.

My conclusion was that Jesus did not die on the cross with the sins of the world. He was the sinless, perfect Lamb that God accepted as a sacrifice to atone for the sins of the world. A debt was owed to a holy God who for centuries overlooked sins and gave forgiveness. That debt couldn’t go unpaid, Jesus came to pay it all with his blood. He was not punished, he was not cursed with sin, he did not act as a substitute for us, he did just what he said he was going to do; Mark 10:45 For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

Moss:
You read your own words into this conversation. No one suggested Christ took responsibility for Our sins and never is it being suggested that He was punished for our inequalities. When you pay a ransom for a loved one are you being punished or accepting responsibility for their actions. It's like paying a ticket for a friend, it is your money but you give it freely, you are not accepting responsibility nor being published. Paying someone Elise's fine doesn't  make you guilty but you will be given a receipt for paying for the offense.

The Father saw this transition and the sins of man being laid upon the scapegoat and sent into the wilderness, now they can no longer be seen.

Christ used His righteousness for me because I had none to give, His righteousness never ends.
He is my Lord and I am His slave.

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