Bible Talk > Apologetics
Loving Jesus enough to obey Him ensures salvation
BCsenior:
--- Quote from: Fat on July 14, 2019, 12:47:49 pm --- Can you explain to me please how can you repent ( turn from sin) and still be An habitual sinner.
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IMO, all born-again believers will be needing to repent more than once, that's for sure.
E.G. initial repentance is for pre-baby believers,
and has nothing to do with the repentance required of those who are on meat.
Having free will means that we can choose to be a habitual sinner.
Fat:
So John 3:16 is a lie? Everlasting life does not come to ALL those who believe in Him.
Moss:
--- Quote from: BCsenior on July 14, 2019, 12:56:15 pm ---IMO, all born-again believers will be needing to repent more than once, that's for sure.
E.G. initial repentance is for pre-baby believers,
and has nothing to do with the repentance required of those who are on meat.
Having free will means that we can choose to be a habitual sinner.
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I don’t understand, you either trun from habitual sin or you don’t. Do believers occasionally fall and sin, yes and they need to confess and ask forgiveness, but they are not on the road to hell.
If you tell me you have not sinned since you salvation, I would find that hard to believe.
Peace
Moss
BCsenior:
--- Quote from: Moss on July 14, 2019, 01:39:43 pm ---I don’t understand ...
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... what I have written. Yes, that's true.
biblebuf:
It appears this discussion is about the preservation of the saints, addressed by John Calvin. The subject was also covered by person we refer to as Jesus Christ and his followers called Paul, John and Peter.
John 6:39
39. "This is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day.
Romans 8:37-39
37. But in all these things we overwhelmingly conquer through Him who loved us. 38. For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, 39. nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
1 John 3:9
9. No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
Philippians 1:6
6. [For I am] confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
2 Corinthians 5:17
17. Therefore if anyone is in Christ, [he is] a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.
Jude 1:24
24. Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, and to make you stand in the presence of His glory blameless with great joy,
1 John 2:19-20
19. They went out from us, but they were not [really] of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but [they went out], so that it would be shown that they all are not of us. 20. But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you all know.
1 John 5:4
4. For whatever is born of God overcomes the world; and this is the victory that has overcome the world-- our faith.
Titus 3:5
5. He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,
John 10:24-30
24. The Jews then gathered around Him, and were saying to Him, "How long will You keep us in suspense? If You are the Christ, tell us plainly." 25. Jesus answered them, "I told you, and you do not believe; the works that I do in My Father's name, these testify of Me. 26. "But you do not believe because you are not of My sheep. 27. "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28. and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. 29. "My Father, who has given [them] to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch [them] out of the Father's hand. 30. "I and the Father are one."
1 Peter 1:3-5
3. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4. to [obtain] an inheritance [which is] imperishable and undefiled and will not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, 5. who are protected by the power of God through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
Ephesians 4:30
30. Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
Romans 11:29
29. for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
1 John 3:9
9. No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
2 Timothy 4:18
18. The Lord will rescue me from every evil deed, and will bring me safely to His heavenly kingdom; to Him [be] the glory forever and ever. Amen.
John 5:24
24. "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
2 Thessalonians 3:3
3. But the Lord is faithful, and He will strengthen and protect you from the evil [one].
Ephesians 1:11-14
11. also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will, 12. to the end that we who were the first to hope in Christ would be to the praise of His glory. 13. In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation-- having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14. who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of [God's own] possession, to the praise of His glory.
1 Corinthians 10:13
13. No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man; and God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide the way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it.
BB
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