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(Gen 6:1-4) Sons of God, Daughters of Man and Giants
pilgrim:
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--- Quote ---Now why you cannot see the relationship of my question about pygmies and relationship of giants coming from the race of two people (Seth and Cain) is incomprehensible to me.
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I do not see how the pygmies got into this discussion. The question was whether or not it was angels who created a race of hybrids, and showed that Peter and Jude both addressed the question and identified the sons of God as being fallen angels, instead of the offspring of Cain that transgressed.
I can only guess that your pygmies business was to prove that the mixture was simply between Cain and Seth’s offspring. If not, why don’t you explain what the pygmies have to do with it? That there are pygmies proves nothing, and has nothing to do with Gen. 6. I don’t think either of us know where they came from.
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In an earlier post you were telling me that the fallen Angels have been confined to hell, but I get from your above quote it appears that you actually do not believe that.
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Well, I certainly would not say something I didn’t believe. That would make me a liar. Again, the angels in question were those who cohabited with women and produce a race of giants. Nowhere did I say all fallen angels were involved in the Gen. 6 problem. The discussion was about Gen. 6 angels, remember?
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Last year, on another board that I manage you became frustrated because people were using logic to refute your distorted view of Scripture.
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Again. Why don’t you explain to the people what my distorted view of Scripture was, or else you are not giving me even a chance of defending myself and you are leaving them in the dark also.
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At that time, you requested that I delete your account, and I did so reluctantly. I now read the same frustration in your last post as I saw on the other board.
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I would appreciate it AD if you would give an explanation of the above so the readers can decide for themselves who was frustrated rather than asking them to accept your slander of me. Twice now you have called my faith into question. I really think that we should keep the personals out of our discussions AD. We are supposed to be discussing passages of Scripture, not whether I use logic or not and whether other people think I am frustrated or not.
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Last year, on another board that I manage you became frustrated because people were using logic to refute your distorted view of Scripture.
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And finally you say:
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I hope that the use of simple logic is not shaking your faith today.
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Well, not really, I think my faith is increased by my logic such as it is.
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The Scriptures are only a mystery to those that have not been elected to understand them. Christ explained this when his disciples asked him why he spoke in parables.
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If you say so AD.
Why don’t we call it quits on this one AD? This is beginning to get nasty and I want no part of such.
If you so desire I will refrain from anymore posts. I really wanted to show the Lord’s people some of the things I think the Lord has opened up for me and let them decide for themselves whether or not my conclusions are correct. I am sorry if I have in any way offended you AD, that certainly wasn’t my intentions.
One day the Lord said:
“"…I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment.”
That is a very sobering thought for me since I am going on 82 now and I have spoke an awful lot of idle words, but I also know the Lord is very compassionate and patient with me and still loves me and I know he loves you also.
May the Lord bless you in your good work here on this site.
In His grace
pilgrim
admin:
--- Quote from: pilgrim ---I can only guess that your pygmies business was to prove that the mixture was simply between Cain and Seth’s offspring.
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Bingo, that is what the whole video was about.
--- Quote from: pilgrim ---Well, I certainly would not say something I didn’t believe. That would make me a liar. Again, the angels in question were those who cohabited with women and produce a race of giants. Nowhere did I say all fallen angels were involved in the Gen. 6 problem. The discussion was about Gen. 6 angels, remember?
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Which means that you believe there are at least two groups of fallen angels and brings to question do you believe that angels continue to fall today.
--- Quote from: pilgrim ---Again. Why don’t you explain to the people what my distorted view of Scripture was, or else you are not giving me even a chance of defending myself and you are leaving them in the dark also.
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Jude 6 and 2 Peter 2:4
--- Quote from: pilgrim ---I would appreciate it AD if you would give an explanation of the above so the readers can decide for themselves who was frustrated rather than asking them to accept your slander of me. Twice now you have called my faith into question.(?) I really think that we should keep the personals out of our discussions AD. We are supposed to be discussing passages of Scripture, not whether I use logic or not and whether other people think I am frustrated or not.
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You're the one that asked to be removed because you could not refute another poster, so why don't you give the explanation.
--- Quote from: pilgrim ---Why don’t we call it quits on this one AD? This is beginning to get nasty and I want no part of such.
If you so desire I will refrain from anymore posts. I really wanted to show the Lord’s people some of the things I think the Lord has opened up for me and let them decide for themselves whether or not my conclusions are correct. I am sorry if I have in any way offended you AD, that certainly wasn’t my intentions.
One day the Lord said:
“"…I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment.”
That is a very sobering thought for me since I am going on 82 now and I have spoke an awful lot of idle words, but I also know the Lord is very compassionate and patient with me and still loves me and I know he loves you also.
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And I am 65 and run 17 domains, and I do not demand anything from anyone.
I have had many people disagree with me over the years and understand that this is the nature of humans. Both sides of this discussion are based on supposition because we are not sure who is being referred to as sons of God. Most believe that they are descendants of Seth, you don't and I respect that. You obviously do not respect my belief.
Matthew 5:9 CSB
Blessed are the peacemakers, because they will be called sons of God.
Luke 20:36 CSB
For they cannot die anymore, because they are like angels and are sons of God, since they are sons of the resurrection.
Galatians 3:26 CSB
for you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus
You have made up your mind that logic has nothing to do with this discussion which is the question on who were the sons of God but the Scriptures tell us that you could be wrong.
Blessings
AD
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