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Fallen Angels vs. fallen man, a question of sovereignty.

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JB Horn:


Couple of things I like to start off with that I hope everyone agrees with so they will not become a point of debate on this thread. First I like to point out some similarities about Angels and men, the main point is that they both were given free will to choose between following God's instructions and not following God's instructions. Another similarity is that both the fallen angels and fallen man have been sentenced to the same fiery hell for eternity.

If we can agree on those points than what I would like to discuss is the question, why is man been given a route to salvation when the fallen Angels have not? There is no salvation possible for Satan and his followers, but a clear path has been opened to fallen man to gain entry into God's kingdom.

The only explanation that can be given for the disparity in the treatment of the fallen Angels and the descendants of Adam, is that God in his own sovereign desire, chose not to give that path of forgiveness to those Angels that chose to follow Satan.

Of course you all know I'm going with this, and of course you are right it is the doctrine of election. Can you deny that God choosing to die for man not for Angels was sovereign right? If that's the case could he not also die for a group of chosen men and allow others to the fate that awaits all of the fallen Angels?

I like to hear what you have to say.

JB

macuser:
Christ spoke with demons  when he was here but never about salvation. There was the one time when He let the legions into the pigs, but there was no salvation for them,

Fat:
Hi JB

You have to look at the whole picture. As far as I can recall there is no record of the angels ever receiving the law. What they did was to put themselves above God, thieir creator.

JB Horn:

--- Quote from: Fat on November 25, 2012, 11:00:15 am ---Hi JB

You have to look at the whole picture. As far as I can recall there is no record of the angels ever receiving the law. What they did was to put themselves above God, their creator.

--- End quote ---

Are you saying that there will be no judgement for Satan? Is there condemnation without the law? My opinion is that the angels were created knowing the law, as the gentiles who did not receive the law have it written on their hearts. And they that have fallen will face the wrath of God.

Fat:

--- Quote from: JB Horn on November 25, 2012, 02:22:09 pm ---Are you saying that there will be no judgement for Satan? Is there condemnation without the law? My opinion is that the angels were created knowing the law, as the gentiles who did not receive the law have it written on their hearts. And they that have fallen will face the wrath of God.

--- End quote ---

No law No faith.
Galatians 3:24, “Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.”

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