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“He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove.”
« on: March 25, 2013, 09:53:02 pm »
“He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove.”
- Matthew 3:16

As the Spirit of God descended upon the Lord Jesus, the head, so he also, in measure, descends upon the members of the mystical body. His descent is to us after the same fashion as that in which it fell upon our Lord. There is often a singular rapidity about it; or ever we are aware, we are impelled onward and heavenward beyond all expectation. Yet is there none of the hurry of earthly haste, for the wings of the dove are as soft as they are swift. Quietness seems essential to many spiritual operations; the Lord is in the still small voice, and like the dew, his grace is distilled in silence. The dove has ever been the chosen type of purity, and the Holy Spirit is holiness itself. Where he cometh, everything that is pure and lovely, and of good report, is made to abound, and sin and uncleanness depart. Peace reigns also where the Holy Dove comes with power; he bears the olive branch which shows that the waters of divine wrath are assuaged. Gentleness is a sure result of the Sacred Dove’s transforming power: hearts touched by his benign influence are meek and lowly henceforth and for ever. Harmlessness follows, as a matter of course; eagles and ravens may hunt their prey-the turtledove can endure wrong, but cannot inflict it. We must be harmless as doves. The dove is an apt picture of love, the voice of the turtle is full of affection; and so, the soul visited by the blessed Spirit, abounds in love to God, in love to the brethren, and in love to sinners; and above all, in love to Jesus. The brooding of the Spirit of God upon the face of the deep, first produced order and life, and in our hearts, he causes and fosters new life and light. Blessed Spirit, as thou didst rest upon our dear Redeemer, even so rest upon us from this time forward and for ever.

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Re: “He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove.”
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2013, 09:52:12 am »
The verse shows that Christ saw the Spirit as a dove, it doesn't say anybody else has. Doesn't the Bible Tell us the Spirit is like the wind and can be felt but not seen?

This may be the one time that the Spirit appears to man.

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Re: “He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove.”
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2013, 11:42:20 pm »
The verse shows that Christ saw the Spirit as a dove, it doesn't say anybody else has. Doesn't the Bible Tell us the Spirit is like the wind and can be felt but not seen?

This may be the one time that the Spirit appears to man.

Actually the word used in the verse for Spirit is (pneuma) and it is also translated as wind.

Example here it is used in one verse twice, once as wind and one as Spirit:

John 3:8 The wind (Pneuma)  blows where it pleases, and you hear its sound, but you don’t know where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit (Pneuma).

It is hard to say if it was Christ who saw the Dove or John. The bible is not clear on this.

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Re: “He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove.”
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2013, 08:23:53 am »
Actually the word used in the verse for Spirit is (pneuma) and it is also translated as wind.

Example here it is used in one verse twice, once as wind and one as Spirit:

John 3:8 The wind (Pneuma)  blows where it pleases, and you hear its sound, but you don’t know where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit (Pneuma).

It is hard to say if it was Christ who saw the Dove or John. The bible is not clear on this.

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I think that if you look at Mark 1:10 in context you'll see it is Christ who saw the dove.

In those days Jesus came from Nazareth in Galilee and was baptized by John in the Jordan. Immediately coming up out of the water, He saw the heavens opening, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon Him; and a voice came out of the heavens: "You are My beloved Son, in You I am well-pleased." Immediately the Spirit impelled Him to go out into the wilderness. (Mark 1:9-12 NASB)

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Re: “He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove.”
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2013, 11:03:47 am »
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I think that if you look at Mark 1:10 in context you'll see it is Christ who saw the dove.

In those days Jesus came from Nazareth in Galilee and was baptized by John in the Jordan. Immediately coming up out of the water, He saw the heavens opening, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon Him; and a voice came out of the heavens: "You are My beloved Son, in You I am well-pleased." Immediately the Spirit impelled Him to go out into the wilderness. (Mark 1:9-12 NASB)
And when He came up out of the water, at once he [John] saw the heavens torn open and the [Holy] Spirit like a dove coming down [to enter] into Him. (Mark 1:10 AMP)

Like I say it is not clear, Gill says it's John as does the  AMP. Some bibles capitalize (He) and some don't .