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John 17:3- Who is the God of Jesus Christ?
theMadJW:
STILL no answer as to who Jesus' God is????
biblebuf:
--- Quote from: theMadJW on April 29, 2013, 02:18:28 pm ---First- nothing ANYWHERE in the Bible says or implies it's "immortal". That would mean Satan told Eve the TRUTH; that we never really die (stop living), since our good ol' 'immortal soul' would float off still alive. That would also make God the Liar- since he told them they would die...not Fry or Fly....
Second, the VERY FIRST REFERENCE to the human soul, if not warped by translation makes it VERY clear that no such 'soul' was put into Adam-
Gen 2:7- And Jehovah formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. - KJV with God's Name put back in.
--- End quote ---
What is a spirit is it deffrent than the soul?
NWT
50 On hearing this, Jesus answered him: “Have no fear, only put forth faith, and she will be saved.” 51 When he reached the house he did not let anyone go in with him except Peter and John and James and the girl’s father and mother. 52 But people were all weeping and beating themselves in grief for her. So he said: “STOP weeping, for she did not die but is sleeping.” 53 At this they began to laugh at him scornfully, because they knew she had died. 54 But he took her by the hand and called, saying: “Girl, get up!” 55 And her spirit returned, and she rose instantly, and he ordered something to be given her to eat.
NWT
30 When, now, he had received the sour wine, Jesus said: “It has been accomplished!” and, bowing his head, he delivered up [his] spirit.
OH It's the spirit that lives and does not die, amazing!
Note that we learn later that Christ body had not gone up with his spirit but was delivered later on.
NWT
Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me. For I have not yet ascended to the Father. But be on your way to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and YOUR Father and to my God and YOUR God.’”
theMadJW:
biblebuf: What is a spirit is it deffrent than the soul?
The Bible uses two different words.
The soul refers to a specific living being or creature- or some part of it .
"Spirit" refers to an unseen energy, power (lit, breath, wind)- like the Holy Spirit, or the form being in Heaven have.
God keeps all things ALIVE by His Breath (spirit).
Those that were temporarily resurrected had that power RETURN enliving their soul/body.
theMadJW:
Do you deny those FIRST two points?
biblebuf:
--- Quote from: theMadJW on April 29, 2013, 04:05:22 pm ---Do you deny those FIRST two points?
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I agree with the Scripture, do you?
Have you read about the new body?
NAS
5 Now He who prepared us for this very purpose is God, who gave to us the Spirit as a pledge. 6 Therefore, being always of good courage, and knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord - 7 for we walk by faith, not by sight - 8 we are of good courage, I say, and prefer rather to be absent from the body and to be at home with the Lord. 9 Therefore we also have as our ambition, whether at home or absent, to be pleasing to Him. 10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.
20 For our citizenship is in heaven, from which also we eagerly wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ ; 21 who will transform the body of our humble state into conformity with the body of His glory, by the exertion of the power that He has even to subject all things to Himself.
YOUR BIBLE PUTS IT THIS WAY
20As for us, our citizenship exists in the heavens, from which place also we are eagerly waiting for a savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,21who will refashion our humiliated body to be conformed to his glorious body according to the operation of the power that he has, even to subject all things to himself.
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