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Who teaches sound doctrine?
Bob:
--- Quote from: calluna on July 04, 2013, 01:39:40 pm ---2 Tim 2:
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Making divisions in the word of truth sounds like what the devil would like done to it.
--- End quote ---
That's one of the many problems with the KJV.
Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth. (NAS)
Sound better ;D
Jack Koons:
3718 ὀρθοτομέω [O)RQOTOME/W] {orthotoméō} \or-thot-om-eh'-o\
from a compound of 3717 and the base of5114, to make a straight cut, i.e. (figuratively) to dissect (expound) correctly (the divine message):--rightly divide.
This is why the verse begins with the word "study".
Jack
calluna:
--- Quote from: Bob on July 04, 2013, 02:25:58 pm ---That's one of the many problems with the KJV.
Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth. (NAS)
Sound better ;D
--- End quote ---
It does indeed sound better, and thanks for it. I don't think it's quite what the ex-Pharisee and Roman citizen had in mind when writing, or what Timothy understood when reading it, though. It's quite an interesting verse, this, as it happens. There is here a borrowing from ordinary Greek usage that was used of making roads, or ploughing, meaning 'cutting straight', a highly desirable practice when making Roman roads (essential for ploughing!). This resonates with the OT idea of straight paths (indeed, the Greek usage may itself have been a borrowing from diaspora Jews). For instance:
'Folly delights a man who lacks judgment, but a man of understanding keeps a straight course.' Pr 15:21 NIV
The word 'straight' here implying a level, flat, surface, and safety, without cause for stumbling. So the following seems not inappropriate:
'Be eager to present yourself to God as one approved, a teacher who does not need to be ashamed, making straight paths from the word of truth.'
In other words, Timothy's teaching is to be both faithful to the Scripture, and useful in practice, too. The word 'diligent' implies laboriousness, which is not a hermeneutic choice. We know that Paul does not consider that Timothy needs to study Scripture, because he has known it from infancy. There is more than teaching ability here, too, because Timothy's personal behaviour is to have 'passed the test', unlike that of the reprobate.
In any case, this translation surely cannot seem too inappropriate in today's context of easy-believe-ism and false doctrine. Folly delights a man who lacks judgment, and many today have got around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
Bob:
--- Quote from: Jack Koons on July 04, 2013, 04:55:32 pm ---3718 ὀρθοτομέω [O)RQOTOME/W] {orthotoméō} \or-thot-om-eh'-o\
from a compound of 3717 and the base of5114, to make a straight cut, i.e. (figuratively) to dissect (expound) correctly (the divine message):--rightly divide.
This is why the verse begins with the word "study".
Jack
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Strong's Number: 3718
Original Word Word Origin
ojrqotomevw from a compound of (3717) and the base of (5114)
Transliterated Word TDNT Entry
Orthotomeo 8:111,1169
Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech
or-thot-om-eh'-o Verb
Definition
to cut straight, to cut straight ways
to proceed on straight paths, hold a straight course, equiv. to doing right
to make straight and smooth, to handle aright, to teach the truth directly and correctly
Jack Koons:
The name of this thread is, "Who teaches sound doctrine"?
This might be better answered in the thread, "Infallibility of the Bible". Why? The doctrines we teach can be no more 'sound', than the textbook we use to teach it. Since the days of Semler, our 'textbook', the Bible, has been looked upon, and evaluated as, just another 'textbook' written by man.
When the scholarship that both translates, and teaches the Word of God, no longer believe the doctrines of Christianity, why do they maintain such positions?
Jack
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