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Can a doctrine follow the serpent lie?

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JB Horn:
The original lie came from the king of liars.


--- Quote ---Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, "Indeed , has God said, 'You shall not eat from any tree of the garden '?" 2 The woman said to the serpent, "From the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat ; 3 but from the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God has said, 'You shall not eat from it or touch it, or you will die.' " 4 The serpent said to the woman, "You surely will not die ! 5 "For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."
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 You will not die and you will become like God. (LDS Doctrine)

And that is a whopper of a lie to claim that by sinning you would become like God.

LDS claim comes from Psalms 82:6  (King James Version)
I have said, Ye are gods (~yhla); and all of you are children of the most High.

What is being discussed here is the office of Judge or Ruler.  Strong's Number 430

Exodus 21:6
Exodus 22:28
Romans 13:1
John 10:35

Bad doctrine???

Moss:
And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: (Genesis 3:22 KJV)

As one of us, not one of us. We were made in the image of God, now we know good and evil but we do not have the power or knowledge to create anything from nothing.

We are not gods and will never be unless we redefined the word.

Yes bad doctrine.

clark thompson:
Their doctrine is more faulty then taht because they also believe Go Himself was once a man who became God.

JB Horn:

--- Quote from: clark thompson on June 10, 2013, 05:30:39 pm ---Their doctrine is more faulty then taht because they also believe Go Himself was once a man who became God.

--- End quote ---

And presently living on some planet somewhere.  8)

calluna:
'"Of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die.”' Ge 2:15 NASB

What can this mean? It cannot mean that A&E did not know right from wrong; the instruction from God was premised on an existing knowledge of good and evil! The only meaning of this is that, if they were to disobey, A&E would die, and die the same day. They did not die the same day physically, so this must refer to death of the soul. So knowledge of good and evil here refers to the sense of guilt that comes after doing what one should not have done, or not doing what one should have done. It is that condemnation that Paul referred to in Romans 8:1. So, just one sin is sufficient to condemn us forever. This is why we are indeed gods; we have sovereign right to destroy ourselves, or to live, by faith, and no power in earth or heaven can take it from us.

But does this mean that God, who also possesses the knowledge of good and evil, is also guilty? No, but he does know what it is for wrongdoers to feel guilt, which is why atonement was made for us. So the subtlety of the serpent was to allege that it was possible for a tempted being other than God to know of guilt, without being guilty; in effect, to do wrong without feeling guilty. Which is exactly what Satan does, and has done. It is the deadening of conscience that is his aim; conscience 'seared as with a hot iron', as Paul put it.

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