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The doctrine of the Trinity
Alexander Winslow:
Please check my post, all my quotes are from the Bible which confirm the non-existence of the Trinity. When addressed by one of his followers as "Good master" Jesus replied: “And Jesus said unto him, "Why callest thou Me good? There is none good but One, that is, God.” (Mark 10:18) KJ21 By this statement Jesus confirms that he is neither Almighty God nor a God-man.
The additional comments in line with those scriptures are from self reasoning, gleaned from the Oxford Theocratic Bible Course which I took between 1960 - 1963.
Squires Publishing which publishes my books, does not come into it; this is run by S.J. Squires.
Alexander
JB Horn:
--- Quote from: Alexander Winslow on August 14, 2014, 05:34:38 pm ---Please check my post, all my quotes are from the Bible which confirm the non-existence of the Trinity. When addressed by one of his followers as "Good master" Jesus replied: And Jesus said unto him, "Why callest thou Me good? There is none good but One, that is, God.” (Mark 10:18) KJ21 By this statement Jesus confirms that he is neither Almighty God nor a Goodman.
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LOL - Tell me Alex, are you claiming that Christ was not good? Or that He said that He was not good?
--- Quote ---The NAS New Testament Greek Lexicon
Strong's Number: 18
Original Word Word Origin
agaqoß a primary word
Transliterated Word TDNT Entry
Agathos 1:10,3
Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech
ag-ath-os' Adjective
Definition
of good constitution or nature
useful, salutary
good, pleasant, agreeable, joyful, happy
excellent, distinguished
upright, honourable
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Now if He is good, according to you He must be the Almighty God. And if He is not good I ask you how could His crucifixion pay for your inheritance?
--- Quote from: Alex ---The additional comments in line with those scriptures are from self reasoning, gleaned from the Oxford Theocratic Bible Course which I took between 1960 - 1963.
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Get your money back!
Fat:
--- Quote from: John Gill ---Why callest thou me good?
This is said, not as denying that he was good, or as being angry with him for calling him so, but in order to lead this young man to a true knowledge of him, and his goodness, and even of his proper deity:
there is none good, but one, [that is], God;
some render it, "but one God", as the Vulgate Latin, Syriac, and Arabic versions; and so the words are a proof of the unity of the divine being, and agree with ( Deuteronomy 6:4 ) , but are not to be understood to the exclusion of the Son and Spirit, who, with the Father, are the one God: nor do these words at all militate against the deity of Christ, or prove that he is not God, as the Jew objects F1; seeing this is not to be understood of the person of the Father, in opposition to the Son and Spirit, who are equally good: nor does Christ, in these words, deny himself to be God, but rather tacitly suggests it; since he is good in the same sense in which God is good: in Matthew it is added, "but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments", ( Matthew 19:17 ) : this Christ said not as his sense, that the way to eternal life lies in keeping the commandments of the law; but he speaks in the language of the Pharisees, and of this man; and his view is, to bring him to a sense of the impossibility of obtaining eternal life by these things, as the sequel shows: wherefore the above Jew F2 has no reason to confront the followers of Jesus with this passage, as if it was a concession of his, that it is impossible any should be saved without keeping the commands of the law of Moses.
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--- Quote from: The MacArthur Study Bible, NASB ---Jesus challenged the ruler to think through the implications of ascribing to Him the title “good.” Since only God is intrinsically good, was he prepared to acknowledge Jesus’ deity? By this query Jesus did not deny His deity; on the contrary, He affirmed it.
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Alexander Winslow:
JB Horn,
Thank you for your comment. I am not claiming anything, but Jesus is.
The word good in our language has only one context, but in Biblical terms it varies according to the way it is used. In this case the word 'good' applied to Jesus, referred a position of excellence above all else; to which Jesus refuted because that would have put him on an equal basis with Almighty God when he had already stated: "My Father is greater than I." (John 14:28)
Incidentally, Jesus' ransom sacrifice has nothing to do with one's inheritance except for those of the anointed 'little flock' to whom Jesus said: "Have no fear little flock, because the kingdom of the heavens belongs to you." (Luke 12:32)
Jesus' corresponding 'ransom' cancelled Adamic death for 'all' mankind and opened the 'way' to the opportunity for everlasting life as perfect humans on earth by way of the resurrection during the thousand year reign of the Christ. In other words, a 'second chance' for all!
Alexander
JB Horn:
--- Quote from: Alexander Winslow on August 15, 2014, 05:28:55 pm ---"My Father is greater than I." (John 14:28)
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It is understood by anybody that is studied the Scriptures that Christ lowered himself to be a servant to man during the time he was on this earth. I don't understand why this is so hard for you to understand. You Cherry pick your verses out of context trying to change the meaning of the holy Scriptures.
Let me post some more Scriptures from the same book of John showing that the Jews understood what Christ claimed.
John 5:18 For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God. 19 Therefore Jesus answered and was saying to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner. 20 "For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He Himself is doing; and the Father will show Him greater works than these, so that you will marvel. 21 "For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son also gives life to whom He wishes. 22 "For not even the Father judges anyone, but He has given all judgment to the Son, 23 so that all will honor the Son even as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.
John 10:29 "My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. 30 "I and the Father are one." 31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone Him. 32 Jesus answered them, "I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?" 33 The Jews answered Him, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God."
John 20:28 Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"
--- Quote from: Alexander Winslow on August 15, 2014, 05:28:55 pm ---Incidentally, Jesus' ransom sacrifice has nothing to do with one's inheritance except for those of the anointed 'little flock' to whom Jesus said: "Have no fear little flock, because the kingdom of the heavens belongs to you." (Luke 12:32)
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You would do well to read this whole chapter it will explain to you that Christ is addressing His disciples.
JB
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