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The Millennium And The Second Coming
petrobb:
--- Quote --- Valiant - That is not so :) The promises to David have been fulfilled in Jesus Christ. The promises to Abraham will be fulfilled in the new heaven and the new earth as Heb 11.10-16 makes clear.
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--- Quote --- Zant Law - Gen 13:15. for all the land which you see, I will give it to you and to your descendants forever.
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Precisely if it is to be forever then it could only be in the eternal kingdom, not on this earth.
Zant Law:
--- Quote from: petrobb on November 15, 2015, 07:02:28 am ---
Precisely if it is to be forever then it could only be in the eternal kingdom, not on this earth.
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Clarify please, are you saying the millennium will come after forever or before forever? Or are you saying that Christ will not reign over the millennium?
Fat:
--- Quote from: Zant Law on November 15, 2015, 07:28:24 am --- Clarify please, are you saying the millennium will come after forever or before forever? Or are you saying that Christ will not reign over the millennium?
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Law, think replacement theology.
petrobb:
--- Quote from: Zant Law on November 15, 2015, 07:28:24 am --- Clarify please, are you saying the millennium will come after forever or before forever? Or are you saying that Christ will not reign over the millennium?
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The millennium is NOW. 'a thousand years' was just a Jewish way of saying a long undetermined period of time. The SOULS of the saints are living and reigning with Christ, having been raised with Him in His resurrection (the first resurrection).
There will be no future millennium on earth. Neither Jesus nor Paul nor Peter had any conception of such an idea.
Zant Law:
--- Quote from: petrobb on November 17, 2015, 06:07:34 am ---The millennium is NOW. 'a thousand years' was just a Jewish way of saying a long undetermined period of time. The SOULS of the saints are living and reigning with Christ, having been raised with Him in His resurrection (the first resurrection).
There will be no future millennium on earth. Neither Jesus nor Paul nor Peter had any conception of such an idea.
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“Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.”
Revelation 20:4 NASB
So the tribulation has come and gone?
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