Bible Talk > Sound doctrine
The Soul and the Spirit
Alexander Winslow:
Hello Macuser,
Neither does Almighty God, Jesus, the Apostles nor any of the first century Christians. The Trinity teaches 'equality' and was introduced by Satan in the Garden of Eden, while God's inspired word teaches 'balance' without which creation would fall apart.
If the Trinity was correct, we would all be under Satan now because it states that Jesus was Almighty God incarnate and therefore if he had died at Golgotha; Satan would have taken over immediately. In accepting the Trinity, you are actually accepting the teaching of Babylon the Great; the world Empire of false Religion. (Revelation 17:5)
You have evidently become entangled with the false teachings of Christendom without checking the scriptures themselves. If Jesus and Almighty God were equal, then Almighty God could no longer be 'Almighty' which means without equal. Common sense reasoning.
The Trinity is the foundation doctrine of Christendom while the 'Ransom' is the foundation doctrine of the Bible.
Jesus was created while God was not; Jesus is a creation while Almighty God is a being so therefore immediately Jesus becomes inferior to Almighty God which he personally confirms: ""...I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I." (John 14:28) "Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do anything of his own initiative, but only what he beholds the Father doing." (John 5:19)
So much for the Trinity!
Not only does Christendom not translate John 1:1 properly, it is seen that they have been randomly translating the terms ‘ho theos’ and ‘ton theon’. For example lets take a look at 2 Corinthians 4:4.
In that verse ‘ho theos’ is translated as ‘the god’ with a small ‘g’ to refer to Satan. In the same verse ‘ton theon’ is translated as ‘God’. This is a clear ‘pick and choose’ tactic being practiced by Christendom.
The Christian world is trying hard to cover up the correct wordings of this verse.
Note (5th March 2006): The “New World Translation” by the “Jehovah’s Witnesses” has also translated this verse as it ought to be translated.
In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.
Ebrahim Saifuddin — March 3, 2007
Alexander
Alexander Winslow:
Hello Zant Law, actually I have answered your question correctly and specifically; you just do not seem to understand it!
Almighty God is the provider of salvation and this is accomplished by the instrument of salvation Christ Jesus who by his corresponding 'ransom' at Golgotha has achieved salvation for the whole of the human race and the Jews who without the way he died; could never be released from the curse of the law as confirmed by the Apostle Paul. Jesus has also by this same sacrifice, opened the way to the opportunity of everlasting life on earth for all who stand against Satan at the end of Christ's thousand year reign; in other words salvation!
Alexander
Alexander Winslow:
Hello fat,
No I am certainly not running from the Bible which is the only foundation we have for God's inspired word.
The English word 'repent' means to change one's mind with regard to the past for what one has done or omitted to do.
Repentance alters a person's course, it does not bring salvation; because that same person can easily alter course again! Just as it did with Judas Iscariot!
John the Baptist declared: "Repent, for the kingdom of the heavens has drawn near." (Matthew 3:2)
He was of course referring to the Messiah who at his arrival also called for repentance by all who belonged to Israel. They had turned away from God and were no longer under his Divine hand. So Jesus now called for those who would listen, to change course and accept the offer being held out to them, to become part of his "little flock" with the hope of immortality in the heavens as the living kingdom of God.
This offer to the House of Israel was to continue for the prophesied week of years [seven years] after which, the offer went out to the Gentile nations in 36 CE.
So yes, repentance simply means to change course; it has nothing to do directly with salvation!
Alexander
Fat:
--- Quote from: Alexander Winslow on July 29, 2014, 05:51:18 pm ---Hello fat,
No I am certainly not running from the Bible which is the only foundation we have for God's inspired word.
The English word 'repent' means to change one's mind with regard to the past for what one has done or omitted to do.
Repentance alters a person's course, it does not bring salvation; because that same person can easily alter course again! Just as it did with Judas Iscariot!
John the Baptist declared: "Repent, for the kingdom of the heavens has drawn near." (Matthew 3:2)
He was of course referring to the Messiah who at his arrival also called for repentance by all who belonged to Israel. They had turned away from God and were no longer under his Divine hand. So Jesus now called for those who would listen, to change course and accept the offer being held out to them, to become part of his "little flock" with the hope of immortality in the heavens as the living kingdom of God.
This offer to the House of Israel was to continue for the prophesied week of years [seven years] after which, the offer went out to the Gentile nations in 36 CE.
So yes, repentance simply means to change course; it has nothing to do directly with salvation!
Alexander
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You are correct in the meaning of repentance.
If for a moment you believe that you can be born again (saved) and not change your course you have been terribly mislead. You must follow Christ if you are of His (any size) flock.
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them , I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity (Jesus Christ 0000)
--- Quote from: Alex ---He was of course referring to the Messiah who at his arrival also called for repentance by all who belonged to Israel. They had turned away from God and were no longer under his Divine hand. So Jesus now called for those who would listen, to change course and accept the offer being held out to them, to become part of his "little flock" with the hope of immortality in the heavens as the living kingdom of God.
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Replacement theology is not Biblical.
Do you claim that God has defaulted on His promise to Abraham?
Who is God referring to in Joel 3?
There is a rule for this baord that if asked you must back all you claim with biblical references. (http://biblediscussion.org/index.php/topic,604.0.html) I am making that plea to you now.
Alexander Winslow:
Hallo Fat,
Thank you again for your comments, yes, I do understand the rule of the board and as it happens this was the primary teaching of the Oxford Course; without scriptural authority the words mean nothing!
I am rather puzzled why you are making this plea, because every word I speak is confirmed in scripture; it is just that sometimes for simplicity it is beneficial to give the reasoning behind a comment or issue but the scriptures are always there to back it up.
For instance, your comment: “If for a moment you believe that you can be born again (saved) and not change your course you have been terribly mislead. You must follow Christ if you are of His (any size) flock.
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.”
You seem to be a little mixed up here, the only way one can be born again is to be raised up after death as an immortal spirit creature in the same manner as Christ Jesus. Just as the Apostle Paul states: “…this which is mortal must put on immortality (1 Corinthians 15:53)
Now the only way one can do this is to be ‘born again’ as an immortal spirit creature and inherit the kingdom of heaven, because these ‘chosen’ ones have been tried and tested to the limit; they therefore have received not only salvation but their status as kings and priests with Christ Jesus. (Revelation 20:6)
You are quoting the scriptures but failing to define the status of those to whom they apply. This is not replacement theology, this was prophesied in Genesis 3:15 the first prophecy in the Bible and the foundation of all that has followed.
God has certainly not defaulted in his promise to Abraham, but it does seem that you like the Jews, have misunderstood it. God’s promise to Abraham in Genesis 22:18 is indeed speaking of the ‘seed’ by means of which all nations of the earth will be blessed at the appointed time.
This ‘seed’ however, is not the ‘seed’ of natural Israel which is already imperfect and defective; the Apostle Paul corrected the Jews who thought this by stating: “Therefore only if you are of the Anointed, are you actually Abraham’s seed, heirs and instrument of the promise.” (Galatians 3:29) NMTCS
He also stated that today, a Jew is not one who is circumcised in the flesh on the outside, but one who is circumcised in the heart on the inside. (Romans 2:28, 29)
In this Paul was confirming that it was to be the heavenly Israel of God and not natural Israel who was to receive this privilege, even though some of the first of the ‘chosen’ were like the Apostles and those at Pentecost and the three thousand which were added later; all of the natural House of Israel in keeping with Covenant which was to be reserved for them for one week of years. (Daniel 9:27)
It was on this special group at Pentecost that God’s spirit was poured out by the ascended Christ and they began prophesying, while each one in the crowd heard the words in his own tongue. (Joel 2:28, 29)
Alexander
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