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The Soul and the Spirit
biblebuf:
--- Quote from: Alexander Winslow on July 26, 2014, 06:27:43 pm ---Well, we could not get it any plainer than that, in fact, the statement that at death even the 'thoughts' of the individual perishes; then this cancels out the 'theory' that some spirit entity goes off somewhere else. Because if it did, then it would know who it is and therefore its thoughts would not have perished!
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What makes you think that the thoughts stay with the spirit? Will the sinful thoughts of the saved follow them to God's house ?
Alexander Winslow:
biblebuf,
Check my wording, it is the churches of Christendom who state this; not me. In fact, check God's wording; God states that at the moment of death one's thoughts perish immediately and therefore we return to dust just as we have been created.
I can tell by your comment that you have not yet defined the difference between the heavenly anointed 'little flock' (Luke 12:32) the only ones to whom the kingdom belongs, and all the rest of mankind who after death will at the appointed very soon now; receive and earthly resurrection to then be brought up to perfection before the final trial.
Except for this anointed heavenly 'little flock', the nucleus of which was chosen personally by Christ while on earth and later at Pentecost; the Apostle Paul informs us that there will be an earthly resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous which means even then all will still be imperfect and dead in God's eyes.
The scriptural confirmation of this is in Revelation whee it states: Revelation 20:4, 5 “…And they came to life and ruled as kings with the Christ for a thousand years. 5 This is the first resurrection. The rest of the dead did not come to life until the end of the thousand years.” [This is the second resurrection (Acts 24:15)] NMTCS
So in the first resurrection these are the ones who like Christ Jesus have died in the flesh but been raised up like him as immortal spirit creatures. Therefore their thoughts are as pure as they were at their choosing. "Many were called, but 'few' chosen for this reason.
The rest of mankind in its imperfect state will over the thousand years be brought up to human perfection but only those who later remain faithful will eventually become alive in God's eyes. This is scripture talking, not me.
Alexander
biblebuf:
--- Quote from: Alexander Winslow on July 26, 2014, 07:12:53 pm ---Check my wording, it is the churches of Christendom who state this; not me. In fact, check God's wording; God states that at the moment of death one's thoughts perish immediately and therefore we return to dust just as we have been created.
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I'm sorry but annihilation is not that in the bible.
Luke 16:24 KJV
And he cried and said , Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
Alexander Winslow:
You have a lot to learn my friend, the destruction of Satan and all others who suffer the 'second death' is just another way of saying total annihilation. As for the Abraham/Lazarus account, this is a metaphorical example and not an actuality because Abraham is still dead in the ground; proved by the fact that Jesus is stated as the first-born from the dead!
Alexander
biblebuf:
--- Quote from: Alexander Winslow on July 26, 2014, 07:41:15 pm ---You have a lot to learn my friend, the destruction of Satan and all others who suffer the 'second death' is just another way of saying total annihilation.
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Matthew 25:41 KJV
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed , into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Mark 9:44 KJV
Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched .
Matthew 25:46 KJV
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Mark 3:29 KJV
But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
Hebrews 6:2 KJV
Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
Jude 1:7 KJV
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication , and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Matthew 13:42 KJV
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Matthew 18:8 KJV
Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee , cut them off , and cast them from thee : it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.
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