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Bible Talk => Bible Study => Topic started by: biblebuf on February 25, 2015, 12:17:57 am
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That He would be just and the justifier
Who understands the power of Your anger And Your fury, according to the fear that is due You? (Psa. 90:11 ) "Then Aaron shall lay both of his hands on the head of the live goat, and confess over it all the iniquities of the sons of Israel and all their transgressions in regard to all their sins; and he shall lay them on the head of the goat and send it away into the wilderness by the hand of a man who stands in readiness. "The goat shall bear on itself all their iniquities to a solitary land; and he shall release the goat in the wilderness. (Lev 16:21, 22) if the anointed priest sins so as to bring guilt on the people, then let him offer to the LORD a bull without defect as a sin offering for the sin he has committed. (Lev 4:3) For the bodies of those animals whose blood is brought into the holy place by the high priest as an offering for sin, are burned outside the camp. Therefore Jesus also, that He might sanctify the people through His own blood, suffered outside the gate. ( Heb 13:11, 12)
Now from the sixth hour darkness fell upon all the land until the ninth hour. About the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "ELI, ELI, LAMA SABACHTHANI?" that is, "MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?" (Matt. 27:45, 46 ) All of us like sheep have gone astray, Each of us has turned to his own way; But the LORD has caused the iniquity of us all To fall on Him. (Isa. 53:6 )
Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.(Rom. 8:1 ) Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, (Rom. 5:1 ) Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us-for it is written, "CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO HANGS ON A TREE "- (Gal. 3:13 )
By this the love of God was manifested in us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world so that we might live through Him. In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins. (1 John 4:9, 10 ) for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, so that He would be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. (Rom. 3:26 ) explaining and giving evidence that the Christ had to suffer and rise again from the dead, and saying, "This Jesus whom I am proclaiming to you is the Christ." (Act 17:3)
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For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. (Matthew 26:28 KJV)
In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; (Ephesians 1:7 KJV)
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Do you understand why all die and pay their own wages of sin? And Jesus death did not cover them? Even the apostles.
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Do you understand why all die and pay their own wages of sin? And Jesus death did not cover them? Even the apostles.
1 Corinthians 7:23 You were bought with a price; stop becoming slaves of men. (NWT)
But for some it's true:
John 8:24 That is why I said to you: You will die in your sins. For if you do not believe that I am the one, you will die in your sins.” (NWT)
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Do you understand why all die and pay their own wages of sin? And Jesus death did not cover them? Even the apostles.
Then there was no need for Christ to go to the cross!
1Pe 1:18 knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, 19 but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ.
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Just and the Justifier
By C. H. Spurgeon
We have seen the ungodly justified, and have considered the great truth, that only God can justify any man; we now come a step further and make the inquiry—How can a just God justify guilty men? Here we are met with a full answer in the words of Paul, in Romans 3:21-26 . We will read six verses from the chapter so as to get the run of the passage:
“But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference; for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; to declare, I say, at this time his righteousness; that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.”
Here suffer me to give you a bit of personal experience. When I was under the hand of the Holy Spirit, under conviction of sin, I had a clear and sharp sense of the justice of God. Sin, whatever it might be to other people, became to me an intolerable burden. It was not so much that I feared hell, but that I feared sin. I knew myself to be so horribly guilty that I remember feeling that if God did not punish me for sin He ought to do so. I felt that the Judge of all the earth ought to condemn such sin as mine. I sat on the judgment seat, and I condemned myself to perish; for I confessed that had I been God I could have done no other than send such a guilty creature as I was down to the lowest hell. All the while, I had upon my mind a deep concern for the honor of God’s name, and the integrity of His moral government. I felt that it would not satisfy my conscience if I could be forgiven unjustly. The sin I had committed must be punished. But then there was the question how God could be just, and yet justify me who had been so guilty. I asked my heart: “How can He be just and yet the justifier?” I was worried and wearied with this question; neither could I see any answer to it. Certainly, I could never have invented an answer which would have satisfied my conscience.
The doctrine of the atonement is to my mind one of the surest proofs of the divine inspiration of Holy Scripture. Who would or could have thought of the just Ruler dying for the unjust rebel? This is no teaching of human mythology, or dream of poetical imagination. This method of expiation is only known among men because it is a fact; fiction could not have devised it. God Himself ordained it; it is not a matter which could have been imagined.
I had heard the plan of salvation by the sacrifice of Jesus from my youth up; but I did not know any more about it in my innermost soul than if I had been born and bred a Hottentot. The light was there, but I was blind; it was of necessity that the Lord himself should make the matter plain to me. It came to me as a new revelation, as fresh as if I had never read in Scripture that Jesus was declared to be the propitiation for sins that God might be just. I believe it will have to come as a revelation to every newborn child of God whenever he sees it; I mean that glorious doctrine of the substitution of the Lord Jesus. I came to understand that salvation was possible through vicarious sacrifice; and that provision had been made in the first constitution and arrangement of things for such a substitution. I was made to see that He who is the Son of God, co-equal, and co-eternal with the Father, had of old been made the covenant Head of a chosen people that He might in that capacity suffer for them and save them. Inasmuch as our fall was not at the first a personal one, for we fell in our federal representative, the first Adam, it became possible for us to be recovered by a second representative, even by Him who has undertaken to be the covenant head of His people, so as to be their second Adam. I saw that ere I actually sinned I had fallen by my first father’s sin; and I rejoiced that therefore it became possible in point of law for me to rise by a second head and representative. The fall by Adam left a loophole of escape; another Adam can undo the ruin made by the first. When I was anxious about the possibility of a just God pardoning me, I understood and saw by faith that He who is the Son of God became man, and in His own blessed person bore my sin in His own body on the tree. I saw the chastisement of my peace was laid on Him, and that with His stripes I was healed. Dear friend, have you ever seen that? Have you ever understood how God can be just to the full, not remitting penalty nor blunting the edge of the sword, and yet can be infinitely merciful, and can justify the ungodly who turn to Him? It was because the Son of God, supremely glorious in His matchless person, undertook to vindicate the law by bearing the sentence due to me, that therefore God is able to pass by my sin. The law of God was more vindicated by the death of Christ than it would have been had all transgressors been sent to Hell. For the Son of God to suffer for sin was a more glorious establishment of the government of God, than for the whole race to suffer.
Jesus has borne the death penalty on our behalf. Behold the wonder! There He hangs upon the cross! This is the greatest sight you will ever see. Son of God and Son of Man, there He hangs, bearing pains unutterable, the just for the unjust, to bring us to God. Oh, the glory of that sight! The innocent punished! The Holy One condemned! The Ever-blessed made a curse! The infinitely glorious put to a shameful death! The more I look at the sufferings of the Son of God, the more sure I am that they must meet my case. Why did He suffer, if not to turn aside the penalty from us? If, then, He turned it aside by His death, it is turned aside, and those who believe in Him need not fear it. It must be so, that since expiation is made, God is able to forgive without shaking the basis of His throne, or in the least degree blotting the statute book. Conscience gets a full answer to her tremendous question. The wrath of God against iniquity, whatever that may be, must be beyond all conception terrible. Well did Moses say, “Who knoweth the power of thine anger?” Yet when we hear the Lord of glory cry, “Why hast thou forsaken me?” and see Him yielding up the ghost, we feel that the justice of God has received abundant vindication by obedience so perfect and death so terrible, rendered by so divine a person. If God himself bows before His own law, what more can be done? There is more in the atonement by way of merit, than there is in all human sin by way of demerit.
The great gulf of Jesus’ loving self-sacrifice can swallow up the mountains of our sins, all of them. For the sake of the infinite good of this one representative man, the Lord may well look with favor upon other men, however unworthy they may be in and of themselves. It was a miracle of miracles that the Lord Jesus Christ should stand in our stead and
Bear that we might never bear
His Father’s righteous ire.
But he has done so. “It is finished.” God will spare the sinner because He did not spare His Son. God can pass by your transgressions because He laid those transgressions upon His only begotten Son nearly two thousand years ago. If you believe in Jesus (that is the point), then your sins were carried away by Him who was the scapegoat for His people.
What is it to believe in Him? It is not merely to say, “He is God and the Saviour,” but to trust Him wholly and entirely, and take Him for all your salvation from this time forth and forever—your Lord, your Master, your all. If you will have Jesus, He has you already. If you believe on Him, I tell you you cannot go to hell; for that were to make the sacrifice of Christ of none effect. It cannot be that a sacrifice should be accepted, and yet the soul should die for whom that sacrifice has been received. If the believing soul could be condemned, then why a sacrifice? If Jesus died in my stead, why should I die also? Every believer can claim that the sacrifice was actually made for him: by faith he has laid his hands on it, and made it his own, and therefore he may rest assured that he can never perish. The Lord would not receive this offering on our behalf, and then condemn us to die. The Lord cannot read our pardon written in the blood of His own Son, and then smite us. That were impossible. Oh that you may have grace given you at once to look away to Jesus and to begin at the beginning, even at Jesus, who is the Fountain-head of mercy to guilty man!
“He justifieth the ungodly.” “It is God that justifieth,” therefore, and for that reason only it can be done, and He does it through the atoning sacrifice of His divine Son. Therefore it can be justly done—so justly done that none will ever question it—so thoroughly done that in the last tremendous day, when heaven and earth shall pass away, there shall be none that shall deny the validity of the justification. “Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died. Who shall lay anything to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifieth.”
Now, poor soul! will you come into this lifeboat, just as you are? Here is safety from the wreck! Accept the sure deliverance. “I have nothing with me,” say you. You are not asked to bring anything with you. Men who escape for their lives will leave even their clothes behind. Leap for it, just as you are.
I will tell you this thing about myself to encourage you. My sole hope for heaven lies in the full atonement made upon Calvary’s cross for the ungodly. On that I firmly rely. I have not the shadow of a hope anywhere else. You are in the same condition as I am; for we neither of us have anything of our own worth as a ground of trust. Let us join hands and stand together at the foot of the cross, and trust our souls once for all to Him who shed His blood for the guilty. We will be saved by one and the same Saviour. If you perish trusting Him, I must perish too. What can I do more to prove my own confidence in the gospel which I set before you?
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Then there was no need for Christ to go to the cross!
1Pe 1:18 knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, 19 but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ.
During the tribulation--the anointed--little flock that are on the earth, will be changed in the twinkling of an eye--never to taste death--during Har-mageddon, the great multitude will be protected and brought through--never to taste death-Prov 2:21,22--Matt 24:22)--- even the apostles tasted death every living being who dies before the trib and harmageddon has tasted death--the ones I have shown are the only ones ever who will not taste death.
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1 Corinthians 7:23 You were bought with a price; stop becoming slaves of men. (NWT)
But for some it's true:
John 8:24 That is why I said to you: You will die in your sins. For if you do not believe that I am the one, you will die in your sins.” (NWT)
How do you explain the apostles dying and paying the wages of sin? they believed. So did all the true followers back then --they all tasted death and paid the wages of sin.
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How do you explain the apostles dying and paying the wages of sin? they believed. So did all the true followers back then --they all tasted death and paid the wages of sin.
Christians are not of this world and the worldly death you speak of is not payment for sin, it is a marriage to the Savior.
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During the tribulation--the anointed--little flock that are on the earth, will be changed in the twinkling of an eye--never to taste death--during Har-mageddon, the great multitude will be protected and brought through--never to taste death-Prov 2:21,22--Matt 24:22)--- even the apostles tasted death every living being who dies before the trib and harmageddon has tasted death--the ones I have shown are the only ones ever who will not taste death.
Sorry that death means so much to you, I have been freed from such fear.
Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection
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The first resurrection are for these only--Rev 14:3--the anointed--the little flock( Luke 12:32)= the bride of Christ--these are bought from the earth to a heavenly hope to rule as kings and priest' alongside of Jesus on thrones--judging the earth doing the separating of the sheep and goats during the trib, and then judging all during judgement after the others are resurrected to the earth. Rev 1:6, Rev 20:6--these are numbered literally--144,000
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Christians are not of this world and the worldly death you speak of is not payment for sin, it is a marriage to the Savior.
You don't know what Jesus even meant by being no part of this world. Jesus' bride is literally numbered-144,000 only are bought from the earth-rev14:3
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You don't know what Jesus even meant by being no part of this world. Jesus' bride is literally numbered-144,000 only are bought from the earth-rev14:3
The 144,000 are all unmarried male Jews, apparently he knows the bible better than you. Revelation 7
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The first resurrection are for these only--Rev 14:3--the anointed--the little flock( Luke 12:32)= the bride of Christ--these are bought from the earth to a heavenly hope to rule as kings and priest' alongside of Jesus on thrones--judging the earth doing the separating of the sheep and goats during the trib, and then judging all during judgement after the others are resurrected to the earth. Rev 1:6, Rev 20:6--these are numbered literally--144,000
Luke 12:32 Humm
Actually the little flock is referenced in John 17, not by name but if you read Luke 12:32 in context you'll get it. He is talking to WHO?????
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The 144,000 are all unmarried male Jews, apparently he knows the bible better than you. Revelation 7
The Jews have been cut off-Matt 23:37-38) not one who rejects Jesus is apart of him or will enter Gods kingdom. Its been over 1900 years--still rejected.
Spiritual Israel( Israelites who came to Jesus and Gentiles)--this is who is being spoken about--and it says nothing about being unmarried it says virgins( symbolic for having 0 to do with false religions and govts)that is apart of being no part of this world.
Peter was married he is part of the little flock. He obviously was not a virgin then as well, proving it is symbolic--and 2 tribes listed in Rev are not part of the 12 listed in the ot=--proving it is spiritual Israel.
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Luke 12:32 Humm
Actually the little flock is referenced in John 17, not by name but if you read Luke 12:32 in context you'll get it. He is talking to WHO?????
Luke 12:32-- Have no fear --little flock--because your father has approved of giving you the kingdom.
he is talking to the little flock in Luke 12:32--not to the great multitude.
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The Jews have been cut off-Matt 23:37-38) not one who rejects Jesus is apart of him or will enter Gods kingdom. Its been over 1900 years--still rejected.
Spiritual Israel( Israelites who came to Jesus and Gentiles)--this is who is being spoken about--and it says nothing about being unmarried it says virgins( symbolic for having 0 to do with false religions and govts)that is apart of being no part of this world.
Peter was married he is part of the little flock. He obviously was not a virgin then as well, proving it is symbolic--and 2 tribes listed in Rev are not part of the 12 listed in the ot=--proving it is spiritual Israel.
John wrote Revelation after all other books had already been written, at the order of Jesus, was Jesus misleading John?
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John wrote Revelation after all other books had already been written, at the order of Jesus, was Jesus misleading John?
They have a different Jesus, remember?
Peter was married he is part of the little flock.
Well daaa that proves that the little flock of Luke 12:32 is not the 144,000 in Revelation!
WAKE UP LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO SPEND IT ON A LIE.
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John wrote Revelation after all other books had already been written, at the order of Jesus, was Jesus misleading John?
Rev 1:1---God gave revelation to Jesus
Much of Rev is symbolism--it kept satan in spiritual darkness and the world( the world Jesus taught to be no part of)
As well 1Peter 1:12--teaches even angels are desiring to peer into truths.
Only Jesus anointed teachers( real teachers) get deep hidden truths revealed through them.
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They have a different Jesus, remember?
Well daaa that proves that the little flock of Luke 12:32 is not the 144,000 in Revelation!
WAKE UP LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO SPEND IT ON A LIE.
No it proves being virgins was symbolism meaning not having anything to do with false religions and corrupt govts of the earth. The little flock is 100% for sure the bride of Christ-the 144,000
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No it proves being virgins was symbolism meaning not having anything to do with false religions and corrupt govts of the earth. The little flock is 100% for sure the bride of Christ-the 144,000
I ask you to show me the scripture that shows the 144K in Revelation is the same as your little flock in Luke 12.
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I ask you to show me the scripture that shows the 144K in Revelation is the same as your little flock in Luke 12.
The faithful and discreet slave( Jesus' real teachers) teach this truth. from HS--Jesus real teachers do not need the schools of men to have truth. the same as back then, the Pharisees condemned Jesus and his teachers because they didn't learn in the schools of men.
What do your teachers teach of why there is one flock mentioned but as two separate groups? What do the schools of men where they learned teach on the matter?
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The faithful and discreet slave( Jesus' real teachers) teach this truth. from HS--Jesus real teachers do not need the schools of men to have truth. the same as back then, the Pharisees condemned Jesus and his teachers because they didn't learn in the schools of men.
What do your teachers teach of why there is one flock mentioned but as two separate groups? What do the schools of men where they learned teach on the matter?
Kjw47 just in case you did not stop by the rules of the board let me point out something.
This is a forum for discussing the Word of God (Bible) but there are areas for politics and church news, please keep those discussions in the proper places.
Please refrain from name calling and provide biblical scripture to back up your point if asked.
Blasphemy will not be tolerated!
There comes from time to time a point where a thread becomes repetitive and seems to be doing nothing but taking up internet bandwidth, if I see this happening I will lock the thread and end the debate.
We believe that the Bible is the Word of God trumps tradition or modern day prophets (those coming after Christ). Anytime tradition or prophecy disagrees with Scripture it has little value in a biblical discussion.
Sticking with the scriptures is the only way we can have a meaningful debate.
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The faithful and discreet slave( Jesus' real teachers) teach this truth. from HS--Jesus real teachers do not need the schools of men to have truth. the same as back then, the Pharisees condemned Jesus and his teachers because they didn't learn in the schools of men.
What do your teachers teach of why there is one flock mentioned but as two separate groups? What do the schools of men where they learned teach on the matter?
This is what my teacher teaches.
John 10:16 "I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd.
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This is what my teacher teaches.
John 10:16 "I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd.
Yes they will be brought into Gods kingdom. It says nothing about the great multitude going to heaven. Gods kingdom is coming to earth. Jesus taught us to pray for that in the Lords prayer. That is why Jesus taught--Matt 5:5--Blessed are the meek for they will inherit the earth. He was speaking to the great multitude-
Proverbs 2:21-22--The blameless, and upright( righteous) will be left over on the Earth
Matt 24:22--Unless those days( Har-mageddon) were cut short, no flesh would be saved.
Since all know the unrighteous will not be saved. it has to be the great multitude this is speaking of.
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Yes they will be brought into Gods kingdom. It says nothing about the great multitude going to heaven. Gods kingdom is coming to earth. Jesus taught us to pray for that in the Lords prayer. That is why Jesus taught--Matt 5:5--Blessed are the meek for they will inherit the earth. He was speaking to the great multitude-
Proverbs 2:21-22--The blameless, and upright( righteous) will be left over on the Earth
Matt 24:22--Unless those days( Har-mageddon) were cut short, no flesh would be saved.
Since all know the unrighteous will not be saved. it has to be the great multitude this is speaking of.
You sure like to take things out of context don't you?
1 Now when he saw the crowds, he went up on a mountainside and sat down. His disciples came to him, 2 and he began to teach them, saying: 3 "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 4 Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted. 5 Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. 6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled. 7 Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy. 8 Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. 9 Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God. 10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 "Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
22 But the wicked will be cut off from the land And the treacherous will be uprooted from it.
15 "Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand ), 16 then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains. 17 "Whoever is on the housetop must not go down to get the things out that are in his house. 18 "Whoever is in the field must not turn back to get his cloak. 19 "But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 20 "But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, or on a Sabbath. 21 "For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will. 22 "Unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. 23 "Then if anyone says to you, 'Behold, here is the Christ,' or 'There He is,' do not believe him. 24 "For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect. 25 "Behold, I have told you in advance. 26 "So if they say to you, 'Behold, He is in the wilderness,' do not go out, or, 'Behold, He is in the inner rooms,' do not believe them. 27 "For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be. 28 "Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.
Just as you can't show a relationship between the little flock and the 144,000 you can't dispute John 10:16, "I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd.
is a gathering of all believers in God's kingdom.
You should get away from your handlers and study the scriptures on your own, you seem more intelligent than that WT propaganda you've been reading.
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You sure like to take things out of context don't you?
Just as you can't show a relationship between the little flock and the 144,000 you can't dispute John 10:16, is a gathering of all believers in God's kingdom.
You should get away from your handlers and study the scriptures on your own, you seem more intelligent than that WT propaganda you've been reading.
At Har-mageddon Gods king will bring Gods kingdom to the earth, He will destroy all wicked and wickedness. It is a govt--a king as the ruler--no matter where one stands post harmageddon they will be standing before the throne of God--the only ruling power ever again-Daniel 2:44.
I know 100% the JW teachers are Jesus'
Rev 21:1-2- teaches Gods kingdom comes down out of heaven to be with mankind( to earth obviously) and that is where mankind will live in Paradise forever( the new earth= no more satan influence) Gods kingdom in full control forever)-- only the little flock go to heaven=144,000 --Eden means-paradise--Gods original purpose
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At Har-mageddon Gods king will bring Gods kingdom to the earth, He will destroy all wicked and wickedness. It is a govt--a king as the ruler--no matter where one stands post harmageddon they will be standing before the throne of God--the only ruling power ever again-Daniel 2:44.
I know 100% the JW teachers are Jesus'
Rev 21:1-2- teaches Gods kingdom comes down out of heaven to be with mankind( to earth obviously) and that is where mankind will live in Paradise forever( the new earth= no more satan influence) Gods kingdom in full control forever)-- only the little flock go to heaven=144,000 --Eden means-paradise--Gods original purpose
You have taken two verses out of context and draw conclusions from thin air. These verses do not address the little flock, Or do you 144,000 Jews who will minister to Israel during me Great tribulation. Just so others can see I'm posting the two verses in Context.
Dan 2
The Interpretation--Babylon the First Kingdom
36 "This was the dream; now we will tell its interpretation before the king. 37 "You, O king, are the king of kings, to whom the God of heaven has given the kingdom, the power, the strength and the glory; 38 and wherever the sons of men dwell, or the beasts of the field, or the birds of the sky, He has given them into your hand and has caused you to rule over them all. You are the head of gold.
Medo-Persia and Greece
39 "After you there will arise another kingdom inferior to you, then another third kingdom of bronze, which will rule over all the earth.
Rome
40 "Then there will be a fourth kingdom as strong as iron; inasmuch as iron crushes and shatters all things, so, like iron that breaks in pieces, it will crush and break all these in pieces. 41 "In that you saw the feet and toes, partly of potter's clay and partly of iron, it will be a divided kingdom; but it will have in it the toughness of iron, inasmuch as you saw the iron mixed with common clay. 42 "As the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of pottery, so some of the kingdom will be strong and part of it will be brittle. 43 "And in that you saw the iron mixed with common clay, they will combine with one another in the seed of men; but they will not adhere to one another , even as iron does not combine with pottery.
The Divine Kingdom
44 "In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not be left for another people; it will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, but it will itself endure forever. 45 "Inasmuch as you saw that a stone was cut out of the mountain without hands and that it crushed the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold, the great God has made known to the king what will take place in the future; so the dream is true and its interpretation is trustworthy."
Rev 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer any sea. 2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, "Behold, the tabernacle of God is among men, and He will dwell among them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself will be among them, 4 and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away." 5 And He who sits on the throne said, "Behold, I am making all things new." And He said, "Write, for these words are faithful and true." 6 Then He said to me, "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give to the one who thirsts from the spring of the water of life without cost. 7 "He who overcomes will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be My son. 8 "But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." 9 Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and spoke with me, saying, "Come here, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb."
The New Jerusalem
10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me the holy city, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, 11 having the glory of God. Her brilliance was like a very costly stone, as a stone of crystal-clear jasper. 12 It had a great and high wall, with twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels; and names were written on them, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel. 13 There were three gates on the east and three gates on the north and three gates on the south and three gates on the west. 14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundation stones, and on them were the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. 15 The one who spoke with me had a gold measuring rod to measure the city, and its gates and its wall. 16 The city is laid out as a square, and its length is as great as the width; and he measured the city with the rod, fifteen hundred miles; its length and width and height are equal. 17 And he measured its wall, seventy-two yards, according to human measurements, which are also angelic measurements. 18 The material of the wall was jasper; and the city was pure gold, like clear glass. 19 The foundation stones of the city wall were adorned with every kind of precious stone. The first foundation stone was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, chalcedony; the fourth, emerald; 20 the fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, topaz; the tenth, chrysoprase; the eleventh, jacinth; the twelfth, amethyst. 21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; each one of the gates was a single pearl. And the street of the city was pure gold, like transparent glass. 22 I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. 23 And the city has no need of the sun or of the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God has illumined it, and its lamp is the Lamb. 24 The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it. 25 In the daytime (for there will be no night there ) its gates will never be closed; 26 and they will bring the glory and the honor of the nations into it; 27 and nothing unclean, and no one who practices abomination and lying, shall ever come into it, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life.
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we shall see soon.
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we shall see soon.
Absolutely!