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Bible Talk => Bible Study => Topic started by: dan p on January 13, 2012, 11:04:55 am

Title: The FIRST person in the Body of Christ ?
Post by: dan p on January 13, 2012, 11:04:55 am
 Hi and the Body of Christ is first mention by Paul and only Paul !!

 When this question is asked , the answers are all over the map , so what does the bible say by ;

#1 , CONTEXT
#2 , DISPENSATIONALLY
#3 , GRAMMATICALLY
#4, hISTOTICALLY
#5 , 2  Tim 2:15
#6 ,  Phil 1:10

 Turn to 1 Tim 1:15 and 16 , as the Context is Grace and the Dispensation of Grace .

"  That Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom I am  PROTOS/FIRST ."


Verse 16 says ,  " in order  that in me  FIRST/PROTOS   Christ Jesus might show forth all longsuffering for a  PATTERN  of the ones coming to believe on Him unto everlasting life .


So , we see that SAUL was saved by Grace and the  FIRST/PROTOS  one in the Body of Christ , dan p
Title: Re: The FIRST person in the Body of Christ ?
Post by: biblebuf on January 13, 2012, 11:38:30 am
Christ was not named until He was born  :(

Paul tells us that the Church (the body of Christ) existed before the Earth.

2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
Title: Re: The FIRST person in the Body of Christ ?
Post by: dan p on January 13, 2012, 12:15:08 pm
 Hi and I see that you mis-understand what I am writing !!

 I am am not talking about Jesus phyical body but Christ's mystical Body where are saved member are put into with Christ as the Head as Col 1:18 says !!   dan p
Title: Re: The FIRST person in the Body of Christ ?
Post by: biblebuf on January 13, 2012, 02:09:02 pm
Hi and I see that you mis-understand what I am writing !!

 I am am not talking about Jesus phyical body but Christ's mystical Body where are saved member are put into with Christ as the Head as Col 1:18 says !!   dan p
No it is you that have the misunderstanding.
I'll type this slow so you can understand.

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Hi and the Body of Christ is first mention by Paul and only Paul !!

I said
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Christ was not named until He was born   :(

Paul tells us that the Church (the body of Christ) existed before the Earth.

Do you disagree with that? If so please explain.
Title: Re: The FIRST person in the Body of Christ ?
Post by: dan p on January 13, 2012, 05:23:21 pm
 Hi , and Paul say that we were  chosen  "  in Christ "   before the Overthrow of the world .

 Church is not mentioned in Eph 1:4 .

 EKKLESIA ,  does not mean Church !!

 Now go to VINE'S   and find out what it means !!

 dan p