Bible discussion
Bible Talk => Bible Study => Topic started by: dan p on January 11, 2012, 11:49:40 am
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Hi to all , and I see some post on the body of Christ .
The Body of Christ had to start some where !!
Where did it begin ??
And , who was its first member ?
dan p
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Hi to all , and I see some post on the body of Christ .
The Body of Christ had to start some where !!
Where did it begin ??
And , who was its first member ?
dan p
If your a Catholic you say it started at the first communion, but if you understand that it is the total of all those who have received His grace form the beginning of creation, you would say with Adam.
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Hi , and I am not a Catholic !!
It is easy to see that Paul was the one that wrote about the Body of Christ !!
The 12 , nor did Jesus write about the Body of Christ , nor how anyone enters the Body !!
Check 1 Cor 12:27 ; Rom 12:5 ; Col 1:18 ;
The entrance is written in 1 Cor 12:13 , dan p
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Hi , and I am not a Catholic !!
It is easy to see that Paul was the one that wrote about the Body of Christ !!
The 12 , nor did Jesus write about the Body of Christ , nor how anyone enters the Body !!
Check 1 Cor 12:27 ; Rom 12:5 ; Col 1:18 ;
The entrance is written in 1 Cor 12:13 , dan p
Col 1:18
The Church was formed at the begaining of time.
Ephesians 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
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Hi and that is one that I post , Eph 1:4 , and 2 Tim 1:9 is the companion verse to Show the following ;
#1 , The dispensation of the Grace of God was before , APO/BEFORE the Overthrow of the world .
#2 , We , the Body of Christ were CHOSEN/CALLED/ELECTED before creation.
#3 , Dispensations were BEFORE Covenants !
#4 , Salvation is by Grace only and the only Gospel that is taught by Paul today , Eph 2:8 !!
#5 , But , there is another Dispensation , even before Eph 1:4 , and that is what many call the Dispensational of Angelic Testing , where Lucifer fell and those that followed Lucifer !!
dan p
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If your a Catholic you say it started at the first communion, but if you understand that it is the total of all those who have received His grace form the beginning of creation, you would say with Adam.
Hi to all , and the Body of Christ began with Paul in Rom 1:1 !!
The key verb tense here is APHORIZO , which is translated by three English words ;
#1 , BOUNDRIES
#2 , LIMITED
#3 , separated .
This verb tense is in the Greek Perfect tense , Passive voice and a Participle .
The Perfect tense means Past action with Continuing results .
This means that after SAUL SALVATION , SAUL can never go back and teach the Law of Moses or ever become a Phraisee ever again .
This means Paul can only preach the Gospel of God and never teach Law 0f Moses again and so from then on Paul is LIMITED TO preach the Grace of God !!
The Passive voice means that Christ put Saul in the ministry .
The Participle means is should be translated the following way " having been separated " and the Body of Christ had its beginning in Acts 9:6 dan p
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Hi and that is one that I post , Eph 1:4 , and 2 Tim 1:9 is the companion verse to Show the following ;
#1 , The dispensation of the Grace of God was before , APO/BEFORE the Overthrow of the world .
#2 , We , the Body of Christ were CHOSEN/CALLED/ELECTED before creation.
#3 , Dispensations were BEFORE Covenants !
#4 , Salvation is by Grace only and the only Gospel that is taught by Paul today , Eph 2:8 !!
#5 , But , there is another Dispensation , even before Eph 1:4 , and that is what many call the Dispensational of Angelic Testing , where Lucifer fell and those that followed Lucifer !!
dan p
Hello Dan,
How many ages do you see in your Dispensation list?
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Hi , and off the top of my head , I see the following ;
#1 , The dispensation of Angelic testing
#2 , The Election before the Creation of the world , Eph 1:4 and 2 Tim 1:9 ,
#3 , The Dispensation of Law
#4 , The Dispensation of the Grace o0f God , Acts 20:24 and Col 1:25 and 26 , to mention a few .
#5 , The Dispensation of the FULNESS of times in Eph 1:10 , for starters , dan p
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Hi , and off the top of my head , I see the following ;
#1 , The dispensation of Angelic testing
#2 , The Election before the Creation of the world , Eph 1:4 and 2 Tim 1:9 ,
#3 , The Dispensation of Law
#4 , The Dispensation of the Grace o0f God , Acts 20:24 and Col 1:25 and 26 , to mention a few .
#5 , The Dispensation of the FULNESS of times in Eph 1:10 , for starters , dan p
Interesting Dan, but I would like to see your whole list if you please.
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Hi and most Dispensationalist , believe in seven , but this is as far as I will go and some will list the 7 year Tribulation as another Age as well as the Milleninial Kingdom , dan p
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Hi and most Dispensationalist , believe in seven , but this is as far as I will go and some will list the 7 year Tribulation as another Age as well as the Milleninial Kingdom , dan p
I see, so you list "for starters" is all that you believe that the Bible teaches?
Christ tells us of the age of "eternal life," Mark 10:30 NAS. Where does that fit in your 5?
Do you know how many ages Christ tells us of?
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Hi , and since you ask me that question , you are new to Pauline Dispensational truth ??
In 2 Peter 3:16 , Peter has this to say about Paul ;
#1 , Paul is hard to understand !
#2 , If you do not know Pauline truth , all are Un-learned !!
#3 , If all do not know Pauline truth , all are Un-stable !!
#4 , If all do not know Pauline truth , all will TWIST the truth to their own destruction , because they will never study to Rightly divide the truth , 2 Tim 2:15 !!
We have not scratched the surface , dan p
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Hi , and since you ask me that question , you are new to Pauline Dispensational truth ??
In 2 Peter 3:16 , Peter has this to say about Paul ;
#1 , Paul is hard to understand !
#2 , If you do not know Pauline truth , all are Un-learned !!
#3 , If all do not know Pauline truth , all are Un-stable !!
#4 , If all do not know Pauline truth , all will TWIST the truth to their own destruction , because they will never study to Rightly divide the truth , 2 Tim 2:15 !!
We have not scratched the surface , dan p
Please answer the questions. If you know the truth tell us.
Christ tells us of the age of "eternal life," Mark 10:30 NAS. Where does that fit in your 5?
Do you know how many ages Christ tells us of?
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Hi and I have just started and Pauline dispensational truth is not easy to those who have never heard dispensationalism !!
Have you heard of it ""
I am not Hyper ot Ultra dispensational , so do not confuse me with thethem !!
Just some thoughts concerning Paul ;
What was his ministry ?
What was his Authority ?
How are Gentiles saved in the Millennium , if you believe in a Millennium ?
How did the Law of Moses end and when ??
dan p
How many Gospels are there , one -15 , I would say !!
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Hi and I have just started and Pauline dispensational truth is not easy to those who have never heard dispensationalism !!
Have you heard of it ""
I am not Hyper ot Ultra dispensational , so do not confuse me with thethem !!
Just some thoughts concerning Paul ;
What was his ministry ?
What was his Authority ?
How are Gentiles saved in the Millennium , if you believe in a Millennium ?
How did the Law of Moses end and when ??
dan p
How many Gospels are there , one -15 , I would say !!
OK if you don't want to answer I'll move on.
IHS
Moss
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I see, so you list "for starters" is all that you believe that the Bible teaches?
Christ tells us of the age of "eternal life," Mark 10:30 NAS. Where does that fit in your 5?
Do you know how many ages Christ tells us of?
Hi , and as to your Mark 10:30 , the context is all Jewish and does not speak to the Body of Christ as nothing has yet been written on this subject and we are given eternal life when we are saved under the Grace of God , and I can not put down in this short space what all the bible teaches on Dispensationalism , dan p
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Hi , and as to your Mark 10:30 , the context is all Jewish and does not speak to the Body of Christ as nothing has yet been written on this subject and we are given eternal life when we are saved under the Grace of God , and I can not put down in this short space what all the bible teaches on Dispensationalism , dan p
Just glancing at you post on the forum I am lead to believe that you think ony Paul spoke to the body of Christ.
Christ is my savior not Paul.