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Eschatology / Re: The chronological order of end time events:
« Last post by Hal on December 07, 2017, 10:58:36 AM »
I would assume that items one through five all happened simultaneously, unless of course we can expect to have a number of raptures.
I think we have to take each one separately because they kind of over lap.
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Eschatology / Re: The chronological order of end time events:
« Last post by Frank T on December 07, 2017, 09:59:45 AM »
 I would assume that items one through five all happened simultaneously, unless of course we can expect to have a number of raptures.
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General / Hallelujah! Trump Will Recognize Jerusalem as Capital of Israel Wednesday
« Last post by Moss on December 05, 2017, 06:36:17 PM »
President Donald Trump will announce Wednesday that the United States recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, and that the State Department will begin a process to move the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.
Trump will first announce that the “United States government recognizes that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel,” according to one of three senior administration officials who spoke with reporters on Tuesday.

The officials conveyed that the change is a recognition of “reality” — both the historic reality that Jerusalem has been the capital of the Jewish people and the Jewish faith since ancient times; and the modern reality that the city is the seat of government for Israel, housing its legislature, supreme court, prime minister, and executive agencies.

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/12/05/hallelujah-president-donald-trump-will-recognize-jerusalem-as-capitol-of-israel-begin-moving-embassy/
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Christian Walk / Re: ACCOUNTABILITY
« Last post by Frank T on December 05, 2017, 06:08:21 PM »
The OP talks about one mans sins having consequences on a whole nation, remember  Sodom and Gomorrah where the whole nation rebelled against God. Look at America and how it stacks up against Romans 1. Even the church in America has fallen.

The consequences of any nation really doesn't matter that much because in the end there will be only one kingdom, and one King. Nations will come and go but the body of Christ will remain forever.
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Bible Study / Re: I FOUND MERCY
« Last post by Frank T on December 05, 2017, 06:01:22 PM »
Reminds me of the kid who is ask if he found Christ and his response was, no Christ found me He wasn't lost. Have we found mercy or is mercy  sought us out?
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Bible Study / Re: The Christmas Story.
« Last post by Frank T on December 05, 2017, 05:55:55 PM »
I like the way the Scriptures compare light and darkness to life and death. Think of what it would be to spend eternity in complete darkness compared to spending eternity in light, being able to see all around you.
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Bible Study / Re: Luke 7:18-21
« Last post by Fat on December 04, 2017, 03:13:42 PM »

The Jewish people were expecting a different kind of Messiah. They believe he would be a great military leader and deliver them from the oppression of Rome. John apparently was under the same impression, but he knew instinctively that Jesus was the Messiah, he was very confused. One of the reasons Jesus did the miracles for the Jewish people to see was to take away any doubt in their mind that he was sent from God. Nobody, including the apostles, seemed really to understand the significance of the presence of Jesus Christ. This changed after the resurrection.

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Bible Study / Luke 7:18-21
« Last post by clark thompson on December 04, 2017, 01:59:02 AM »
Luke 7:18-21 King James Version (KJV)
18 And the disciples of John shewed him of all these things.
19 And John calling unto him two of his disciples sent them to Jesus, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another?
20 When the men were come unto him, they said, John Baptist hath sent us unto thee, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another?
21 And in that same hour he cured many of their infirmities and plagues, and of evil spirits; and unto many that were blind he gave sight.

Luke 7:18-21 Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)

18 Yochanan’s talmidim informed him of all these things. Then Yochanan called two of his talmidim 19 and sent them to the Lord to ask, “Are you the one who is to come? Or should we look for someone else?” 20 When the men came to him, they said, “Yochanan the Immerser has sent us to you to ask, ‘Are you the one who is to come? Or should we keep looking — for someone else?’” 21 Right then he was healing many people of diseases, pains and evil spirits, and giving sight to many who were blind.

Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) Copyright © 1998 by David H. Stern. All rights reserved.


These are my thoughts, please share yours.

18 These men were followers of John but they went to Jesus, people following something or someone else doesn’t change that Jesus is the one with authority.

19 John boldly proclaimed Jesus before but now because of him being arrested he doubted, we may doubt during the hard times but we can go to the Lord and be reassured.

20 So they went and asked the question on John’s behalf. Jesus thankful is the one who stands on our behalf before the Lord.

21 Jesus had already as this point healed more people then anyone else ever would. Jesus at this point already had done things that hadn’t been done before. He is still the same today.
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Church News / Church Nativity Scene Removed, Left in Heap
« Last post by macuser on December 04, 2017, 12:31:20 AM »
Church Nativity Scene Removed, Left in Heap


Pastor Mike Openshaw of the Lighthouse Christian Church was confused last Thursday when he received an email telling his church to remove their Nativity scene. The email came from the Ranch Maintenance Agreement Board, the property association who says they are in charge of maintaining the land in front of the church.

In part, the email read: “Please be advised that the board of directors shall have the display removed by end of day, tomorrow, Friday if it is not done so by the Lighthouse Church.”

The Nativity scene was placed in front of the church to cover up damage caused by a pickup truck that crashed into the church’s monument in October. Pastor Openshaw called the Ranch Maintenance Agreement Board asking for help with the repairs. 

“We filed an insurance claim [but] the property association said that's our sign on our property and we have to fix it,” he explained.

Openshaw said the company is now saying the property is theirs, contrary to their statement in October. He has reached out to the city and is waiting for them to identify the property line.

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Church-Nativity-Scene-RemovedLeft-in-Heap--461759063.html
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Bible Study / The Christmas Story.
« Last post by macuser on December 04, 2017, 12:16:59 AM »
From the: DISCIPLE’S STUDY BIBLE


John 1:1
Jesus Christ, Word of God—Jesus is explicitly called the Word (Greek logos ) in this verse and in v. 14. The idea of Jesus as Word is one of the most significant insights about Christ in the New Testament. Word of God has roots in the Old Testament word of the Lord revealed to and through the prophets. By the word or speech of God the world was formed and the will of God accomplished (Ge 1). Another Old Testament idea related to word is the notion of wisdom, the personified knowledge of God (Pr 1:20-33; 8:22-26 ). These Old Testament ideas are given full meaning and substance by John’s declaration that the Word became flesh (Jn 1:14 ). The Greeks tended to associate word ( logos ) with mind, rational thought. They talked of a rational pattern implanted in the universe. John used the term logos to build a bridge of understanding between the Greek and Hebrew cultures, uniting all of these ideas in applying them to Jesus. Jesus is God’s plan for the world, God’s action agent who secures what God wants done, the application of God’s wisdom. Christ unites creation and redemption. As the Word became flesh, Jesus was God in human form communicating God’s will in all He said and did. He embodied ultimate truth. To communicate or proclaim about God is to point to Jesus. Only in Him can life and the universe be seen as rational and meaningful. Human speech cannot adequately communicate God. The Word become flesh can, did, and does show us the Father.

John 1:1-4
Revelation, Jesus Christ—Jesus is the Word of revelation alive in human flesh. His revelation did not begin at birth in Bethlehem. He has been actively revealing God since creation in which He was active. He shows the nature of the life God creates.

John 1:3
Creation, the Trinity—All three members of the Trinity were present at the creation. The Father spoke the world into being. The Spirit was hovering over the waters (Ge 1:2). All of it happened, however, through the agency of the Son, the Word made flesh. The world was created in order that its inhabitants might bring glory to the Creator. This can be done only as we give full allegiance to the Son, who was with the Father from the beginning and is the Father’s final Word concerning Himself (Heb 1:1-2 ).

John 1:4-5
Jesus Christ, Light—Life involves conflict between God, who is good, and evil powers. Evil is darkness, shutting out opportunity to see or know good. God is the source of light which exposes evil for what it is. Jesus is that light in person exposing the evil of the world and pointing the way to God. Compare 8:12; 12:46; 1 Jn 2:8 .

John 1:4
Jesus Christ, Life—Life is more than physical functioning of the body. Life involves personal relationship and meaning. Full life includes relationship with God. In this sense Jesus is the source of life. He lived the fullest human life ever lived. He is the link to the Creator of life. By His death, He enabled sinners to inherit eternal life. Compare 5:26, 40; 10:10; 14:6.
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