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Fat

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Islam as a theocracy rather than a religion?
« on: February 24, 2017, 02:10:09 pm »
Here, allow me to present a brief summary of what the Islamic theocracy demands of adherents, toward achieving a one-world Ummah under one grand Caliph:
   1   An offer must be made to the non-Moslem person or nation to submit to Islam.
   2   The non-Moslem may convert and live in accordance with Islamic religion, culture and law.
   3   The non-Moslem may not convert, but submit to Islamic law and Islamic authority, pay a special tax, and continue to live where he resides.
   4   If the non-Moslem person or nation does not convert and does not submit, war is to be made against them.
   5   If a Moslem commits murder or violence against a non-Moslem in Dar Al Harb without first making the offer, he commits a sin; however, there is to be no temporal punishment for this violation of Sharia, because, in Dar Al Harb, anything goes against the non-believers. Allah is merciful only in Dar Al Islam.
      
From Saladin to Khomeini to Bin Ladin, nobody ever “hijacked” Islam or otherwise miss-represented what Islam stands for. They all acted in strict accordance with the law as defined in the Islamic theocracy. It was thoroughly main-stream and perfectly orthodox Islamic law that directed them all to do the things that they did.
The problem in America is that we Constitutionally insist upon freedom of religion, and Islam is touted to be a true religion rather than a political ideology aimed at world domination. Even outlawing Sharia, as we have recommended, presents the same difficulty, because the Islamic law is itself all bound up in the “religion.”
And so we are presented with the unique situation in which foreigners have the unmitigated gall to plot our death and destruction because of our non-adherence to their foreign laws. Enemies actually dare to come here and murder innocent people without warning because of some law, edict or fatwa issued by somebody foreign to us and not subject to our law. Islamic “immigrants” and local converts feel perfectly free to work within our own borders to achieve our ultimate subjugation or destruction.
Those few of us not mesmerized by the “Islam is a religion of peace” mantra are still hindered by our own law from actually doing anything serious about it.


From:
http://www.catholicamericanthinker.com/islamic-theocracy.html


Our Constitution does NOT, however, provide any protection for a theocracy. The very fact that Islam is a theocracy puts it at odds with our system of law and government here in the U.S. The Constitution rejects theocracies, verbatim. Jan Morgan is entirely within her Constitutional right to do the same, especially if she, as the owner of a business, is responsible for the safety of her customers, and one specific, theocratic group of her customers have a clear history of violence against other human beings and a penchant for disrespecting, if not completely ignoring, females in authority.
Bottom line: Islam has no place here in the United States of America, or in any rational, intelligent group of people or nation.

From:
http://ryoc.us/islam-religion-theocracy/

macuser

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Re: Islam as a theocracy rather than a religion?
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2017, 11:59:00 am »
 Islam and the sharia law even have the court system set up within it for trials and assigning punishment. Punishment for  offenses can include the death sentence.

  Islam is a theocracy there's no doubt about it.

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Re: Islam as a theocracy rather than a religion?
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2017, 12:13:22 pm »
 When a form of government becomes a religion does that make it a theocracy?  The reason I ask is that I see many socialist and communist treat their form of government as a religion, by showing total worship and devotion to their government.  Communist governments even regulate religious practices in their countries in fear they'll compete with government for control of the minds of the masses.

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Re: Islam as a theocracy rather than a religion?
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2017, 11:25:11 pm »
The way I see it even if a person agreed to the punishments that are ministered by sharia law, it would still not be a lawful action in any state that I know of. As you know in most states it's illegal to kill yourself, so just agreeing to the punishment does not mean that the people dishing out the punishment are not breaking the law.

And if a punishment is a forfeiture of property how could you ever show that was free voluntary? Then what happens if the party later on decides that he or she does not want to go through with the outcome of the sharia court?

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Re: Islam as a theocracy rather than a religion?
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2017, 10:55:42 am »
When a form of government becomes a religion does that make it a theocracy?  The reason I ask is that I see many socialist and communist treat their form of government as a religion, by showing total worship and devotion to their government.  Communist governments even regulate religious practices in their countries in fear they'll compete with government for control of the minds of the masses.

You have a good point and like a theocratic the comies will not allow any other religion.