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JB Horn

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Theanthropos
« on: August 03, 2013, 04:35:47 PM »
Theanthropos
The God-man, that is, Christ, as uniting the divine and human natures.

The Jews had a objection to the possibility of a man being God.

John 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

The fourth Council of Chalcedon Creed (451 AD) adopted that Christ was fully man and fully God.

Who is right?

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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2013, 11:09:32 PM »
We know that Jesus did experience human emotions, John 11:35 "Jesus wept".

The book of Luke tells us that Christ Increasing in wisdom and stature, Luke 2:52.

We know that Christ experienced hunger and thirst Luke 4:2 John 4:6, 7.

We know also that Christ became fatigued from John 4:6. And of course Christ experienced injury during his crucifixion.

All human traits.


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Re: Theanthropos
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2013, 12:35:37 PM »
We know that Jesus did experience human emotions, John 11:35 "Jesus wept".

The book of Luke tells us that Christ Increasing in wisdom and stature, Luke 2:52.

We know that Christ experienced hunger and thirst Luke 4:2 John 4:6, 7.

We know also that Christ became fatigued from John 4:6. And of course Christ experienced injury during his crucifixion.

All human traits.



Another human attribute, He did not possess all knowledge when He was in human form.

Mark 13:32 NAS
"But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.


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Re: Theanthropos
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2013, 06:10:41 PM »
Jesus is the Word in the flesh. The Word is God. Jesus is God.

JB Horn

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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2013, 11:41:08 PM »
One other thing that was important here that I don't think anybody is mentioned yet, to fulfill prophecy Christ had to show a human lineage to David and Abraham.

Genesis 22:18 "In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice."

Yet this Human was prophesied that He would be God.

 Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born , unto us a son is given : and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor , The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel ("God with us" ).

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Re: Theanthropos
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2013, 09:13:21 AM »
J B I think you answered you own question, the Council of Chalcedon is correct and the Jews were wrong. Clark quoted John 1, it says it all.

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Re: Theanthropos
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2013, 10:40:59 AM »
Theanthropos
The God-man, that is, Christ, as uniting the divine and human natures.

The Jews had a objection to the possibility of a man being God.

John 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

The fourth Council of Chalcedon Creed (451 AD) adopted that Christ was fully man and fully God.

Who is right?

The Jews were not looking for a sacrifice they were looking for a king. If Christ would've been all man with no divinity he would've been flawed and therefore unacceptable as a sacrifice for their sins. In short they were looking for a king to conquer their enemies and not a king to conquer their sins and Satan.

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Re: Theanthropos
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2017, 12:07:09 AM »


Ran across this and thought of this old thread.


By Anselm of Canterbury, 11th century - theologian

"If it be necessary, therefore, as it appears, that the heavenly kingdom be made up of men, and this cannot be effected unless the aforesaid satisfaction be made, which none but God can make and none but man ought to make, it is necessary for the God-man to make it."
"Therefore the God-man, whom we require to be of a nature both human and Divine, cannot be produced by a change from one into the other, nor by an imperfect commingling of both in a third; since these things cannot be, or, if they could be, would avail nothing to our purpose. Moreover, if these two complete natures are said to be joined somehow, in such a way that one may be Divine while the other is human, and yet that which is God not be the same with that which is man, it is impossible for both to do the work necessary to be accomplished. For God will not do it, because he has no debt to pay; and man will not do it, because he cannot. Therefore, in order that the God-man may perform this, it is necessary that the same being should perfect God and perfect man, in order to make this atonement. For he cannot and ought not to do it, unless he be very God and very man. Since, then, it is necessary that the God-man preserve the completeness of each nature, it is no less necessary that these two natures be united entire in one person, just as a body and a reasonable soul exist together in every human being; for otherwise it is impossible that the same being should be very God and very man."