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freeman4

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Re: What about those who have never heard the gospel?
« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2013, 05:51:37 am »
All will be given the chance to be a Son and or Daughter of God. In Rev Ch 20: we are told that the rest or the dead will be resurrected after the 1000 years are finished. That will be those who have not had a chance at salvation and they will be resurrected to a physical state and given the opportunity to accept Gods way and then be changed to His Spiritual sons and or daughters.

Theodore A. Jones

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Re: What about those who have never heard the gospel?
« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2013, 06:44:57 am »
For those of us that live in the "civilized" or "industrialized" world, not much thought needs to be spent on how we both hear the gospel, and receive His salvation; but, what about those millions of souls that live their entire lives, never having heard the gospel; has God ever, does God now, or will God ever have a plan for those people; other than to be born, live, die, and finally spend all of eternity in torment?

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I fully disagree with your assumption "not much  needs to be spent on how we both hear the gospel, and receive His salvation".
For isn't it the fact that a false doctrine of salvation was introduced during the apostle's era of ministry which has resulted in making it true that very few ever find the gate into God's kingdom? Your assumption is what you've heard is the same as the message for salvation those men stated. I don't think so in regard to this pertinent fact. In Jn. 16:8, the Lord says that the objective of the gospel message is for the sole purpose of convicting the world of guilt in regard to sin AFTER the fact of his crucifixion. However in this era the objective of the message for salvation is the opposite. Stating that it is only by Jesus having been crucified; guilt relative to sin has already been resolved. You need to spend your time resolving this dichotomy before you concern yourself with everybody else.     

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Re: What about those who have never heard the gospel?
« Reply #32 on: August 23, 2013, 09:22:30 am »
I fully disagree with your assumption "not much  needs to be spent on how we both hear the gospel, and receive His salvation".
For isn't it the fact that a false doctrine of salvation was introduced during the apostle's era of ministry which has resulted in making it true that very few ever find the gate into God's kingdom? Your assumption is what you've heard is the same as the message for salvation those men stated. I don't think so in regard to this pertinent fact. In Jn. 16:8, the Lord says that the objective of the gospel message is for the sole purpose of convicting the world of guilt in regard to sin AFTER the fact of his crucifixion. However in this era the objective of the message for salvation is the opposite. Stating that it is only by Jesus having been crucified; guilt relative to sin has already been resolved. You need to spend your time resolving this dichotomy before you concern yourself with everybody else.   

Acts 16:29-31
Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
29 Then the jailer called for lights, rushed in, and fell down trembling before Paul and Silas. 30 Then he escorted them out and said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”

31 So they said, “Believe on the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.”


He did not say believe of but on or in depending on your translation. You must understand the deference.

Theodore A. Jones

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Re: What about those who have never heard the gospel?
« Reply #33 on: August 23, 2013, 03:53:37 pm »
Acts 16:29-31
Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
29 Then the jailer called for lights, rushed in, and fell down trembling before Paul and Silas. 30 Then he escorted them out and said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”

31 So they said, “Believe on the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.”


He did not say believe of but on or in depending on your translation. You must understand the deference.

According to Jesus Christ there are only a very few persons that ever find the gate into God's kingdom. "Then they spoke the word of the Lord to him and all the others in his house." Acts 16:32  What do you think they said?

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Re: What about those who have never heard the gospel?
« Reply #34 on: August 23, 2013, 04:15:06 pm »
According to Jesus Christ there are only a very few persons that ever find the gate into God's kingdom. "Then they spoke the word of the Lord to him and all the others in his house." Acts 16:32  What do you think they said?

To both Jews and Greeks:
Acts 20:21

Theodore A. Jones

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Re: What about those who have never heard the gospel?
« Reply #35 on: August 23, 2013, 04:24:36 pm »
To both Jews and Greeks:
Acts 20:21

Repentance of what sin? Also the word 'word' in Acts 16:32 is referencing a word or singular word. What word?

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Re: What about those who have never heard the gospel?
« Reply #36 on: August 23, 2013, 05:09:12 pm »
Repentance of what sin? Also the word 'word' in Acts 16:32 is referencing a word or singular word. What word?

Let me answer for JB on this. He must be getting tired of your juvenile antics.

What word???? Are you serious???

   And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.


Have you only repented for some of your sins Rev.? If so you're in deep dodo.

Have a nice day.



Theodore A. Jones

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Re: What about those who have never heard the gospel?
« Reply #37 on: August 23, 2013, 06:32:20 pm »
Let me answer for JB on this. He must be getting tired of your juvenile antics.

What word???? Are you serious???

   And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.


Have you only repented for some of your sins Rev.? If so you're in deep dodo.

Have a nice day.

Repentance of what sin?  Yes I am serious. Answer the question.

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Re: What about those who have never heard the gospel?
« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2013, 11:51:25 pm »
For those of us that live in the "civilized" or "industrialized" world, not much thought needs to be spent on how we both hear the gospel, and receive His salvation; but, what about those millions of souls that live their entire lives, never having heard the gospel; has God ever, does God now, or will God ever have a plan for those people; other than to be born, live, die, and finally spend all of eternity in torment?

Jack

I was born again many years before I ever heard the gospel preached, or even read a bible. Although I was of non christian parents, I met the Holy Spirit alone in my bedroom. I know I was born again at that time. The Lord spoke clearly to me again as a teenager, giving me revelations and scriptural truth. He even told me that he didn't live in the church, but in my heart. It was probably ten years from that occasion that I first heard the gospel.
I know that I know that I know I knew God. I just didn't know the why and the how till my mid20s.

Romans1v18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. 20For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.…

This makes it clear that all men have the seed of truth within them. That they can surrender to God's sovereignty at any time.

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Re: What about those who have never heard the gospel?
« Reply #39 on: July 26, 2014, 06:06:18 pm »
What about all the millions who have died since Adam was put on the earth, along with many today who still have never heard of the Gospel? Well, this is what the 'second chance' for 'all' mankind is all about!

Once Adam had transgressed in the Garden of Eden, he and Eve along with all unborn mankind in its imperfection came under the sentence of death. But Almighty God realizing that the real instigator was Satan has decided to give all mankind a second chance to stand once more before him in a state of perfection at the end of the Sabbath Millennium.

God in his loving kindness today, will not judge imperfect man by his own perfect Law; so while at the moment all of us remain 'dead' in God's eyes as Jesus confirmed when he said to one who was about to become one of his 'little flock' "Let the dead bury the dead, you follow me." the provision of Christ's Millennial Rule will enable all during the general earthly resurrection to be brought up to perfection while at the same time understanding what this provision is all about.

At the end of this period, those who this time of their own cognizance, remain faithful to God when Satan who will have been bound for this period, is released for a short period to once more deceive the nations; will therefor receive everlasting life on earth under global paradisaical conditions as first intended. Those who still adamantly follow Satan will along with him perish in the 'second death'! (Revelation 21:8)

One cannot be in danger of the 'second death' until resurrected from the first death.

So in the end there will be no one on earth who will not have received a full understanding of God's will and purpose.

Alexander