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Hal

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How many will be saved?
« on: October 27, 2013, 06:17:33 pm »

You ever wonder how many will make it through the narrow gate? The Scriptures tell us that few will find. We are also told that once the doors closed no one will be allowed to enter.

matthew 7:13 "Enter through the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the road is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who go through it. 14 How narrow is the gate and difficult the road that leads to life, and few find it.

luke 13:25 once the homeowner gets up and shuts the door. Then you will stand outside and knock on the door, saying, 'Lord, open up for us!' He will answer you, 'I don't know you or where you're from.'

It is estimated that during the time of the flood there was as many as 250 million people on earth.  For a 120 years Noah preached warning of the coming flood. But the people, all but a few, ignored his warning. Once Noah Close the door no more were allowed them and only a few were saved.

1 peter 3:20 who in the past were disobedient, when God patiently waited in the days of Noah while an ark was being prepared; in it, a few-that is, eight people-were saved through water.



It is time to get through the gate before it is closed, we never know when our time on earth will end.

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Re: How many will be saved?
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2013, 12:32:55 pm »
Don't tell me, it adds up to 144,000 using the % saved from the flood applied to all that have lived sense the flood :)

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Re: How many will be saved?
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2013, 12:42:18 pm »
Don't tell me, it adds up to 144,000 using the % saved from the flood applied to all that have lived sense the flood :)

No I am not going there with this. I am merely trying to show that the number, when the Bible uses the word few, is indeed small.

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Re: How many will be saved?
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2013, 04:20:26 pm »
Sadly not all will be saved.

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Re: How many will be saved?
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2013, 08:49:51 am »
Sadly not all will be saved.

All we can do Clark, is get the WORD out of His good news.

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Re: How many will be saved?
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2014, 06:07:15 pm »
One of the worst teachings of Christendom is the sectarian construction which has been put upon that word “believe.” To the Catholics it means to believe the teachings of the Catholic Church. To the various Protestant groups it means the acceptance of their particular interpretation of truth and how to practice it.  To all and sundry it means, “Come with us, and do it before you die, or you will be forever lost”—or at least suffer for hundreds of years in a terrible purgatory of torment, as the Catholic Church teaches.
 
This concept of the Gospel has replaced love with fear as an incentive to believe and obey, and for this there is no scriptural authorization.  There is no evidence anywhere in the Bible that the opportunity to obtain salvation through Christ is limited to this present life. In fact, we are advised by the Apostle Paul that there will be a general resurrection of ‘all’ mankind on the ‘last day’ of God’s Great Sabbath on which he is still resting. (Acts 24:15; John 6:54; John 11:24)

The basic teaching of the Bible is the ‘ransom’ and the reason for this is so that all the millions who died before Christ came will have a ‘second chance’ of acquiring all the knowledge and understanding which they never had before they died.

The Apostle Paul confirms that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous with no exceptions, (Acts 24:15) while Martha confirms that this will take place on the ‘last day’ of God’s Great Sabbath. (John 11:24) Being a wise and loving Creator, God will not judge anyone [especially when they are imperfect] by his own perfect Law and certainly not when they have been resurrected not knowing anything of the Messiah nor what God’s will and purpose is for mankind.

The fundamental teaching of the ‘ransom’ is that Jesus died for all! Including Adam! Thereby offering a ‘second chance’ for all!

If there is no ‘second chance’, then there is no resurrection, no Sabbath Millennium and no ‘second death!’ (Acts 24:15; John 11:24; Revelation 20:6; 21:8) [No exceptions!]

God will not judge an imperfect race to condemnation by his own perfect Law before putting the whole race on a level perfect footing. This is the whole purpose of the corresponding ransom through the sacrifice of the Messiah Christ Jesus. At the moment, all mankind is ‘dead’ in God’s eyes, confirmed by Jesus in his words: “Let the dead carry on burying their dead.” (Matthew 8:22)

No one on earth will come to life until the end of the Sabbath Millennium, by which time all will have had an opportunity as perfect humans with full knowledge to choose whom they will follow; God or Satan. (Revelation 20:7-10) Christ Jesus only had two things to accomplish during his short period on earth, the first was to choose for himself his anointed ‘little flock’ who rule with him as joint heirs in his kingdom; the second was to die as the corresponding ‘ransom’ for Adam’s transgression and so release ‘all’ mankind from the curse of Adamic death [death without a resurrection] and open the ‘way’ to the resurrection and the opportunity of a second chance of everlasting life on the earth as originally intended, in other words; salvation! Those who still favour Satan will enter the ‘second death’! (Revelation 21:8) There we are, the Bible in a nut-shell!

Yours in Truth,

Alexander

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Re: How many will be saved?
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2014, 10:07:50 am »
One of the worst teachings of Christendom is the sectarian construction which has been put upon that word “believe.” To the Catholics it means to believe the teachings of the Catholic Church. To the various Protestant groups it means the acceptance of their particular interpretation of truth and how to practice it.  To all and sundry it means, “Come with us, and do it before you die, or you will be forever lost”—or at least suffer for hundreds of years in a terrible purgatory of torment, as the Catholic Church teaches.
 
This concept of the Gospel has replaced love with fear as an incentive to believe and obey, and for this there is no scriptural authorization.  There is no evidence anywhere in the Bible that the opportunity to obtain salvation through Christ is limited to this present life. In fact, we are advised by the Apostle Paul that there will be a general resurrection of ‘all’ mankind on the ‘last day’ of God’s Great Sabbath on which he is still resting. (Acts 24:15; John 6:54; John 11:24)

The basic teaching of the Bible is the ‘ransom’ and the reason for this is so that all the millions who died before Christ came will have a ‘second chance’ of acquiring all the knowledge and understanding which they never had before they died.

The Apostle Paul confirms that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous with no exceptions, (Acts 24:15) while Martha confirms that this will take place on the ‘last day’ of God’s Great Sabbath. (John 11:24) Being a wise and loving Creator, God will not judge anyone [especially when they are imperfect] by his own perfect Law and certainly not when they have been resurrected not knowing anything of the Messiah nor what God’s will and purpose is for mankind.

The fundamental teaching of the ‘ransom’ is that Jesus died for all! Including Adam! Thereby offering a ‘second chance’ for all!

If there is no ‘second chance’, then there is no resurrection, no Sabbath Millennium and no ‘second death!’ (Acts 24:15; John 11:24; Revelation 20:6; 21:8) [No exceptions!]

God will not judge an imperfect race to condemnation by his own perfect Law before putting the whole race on a level perfect footing. This is the whole purpose of the corresponding ransom through the sacrifice of the Messiah Christ Jesus. At the moment, all mankind is ‘dead’ in God’s eyes, confirmed by Jesus in his words: “Let the dead carry on burying their dead.” (Matthew 8:22)

No one on earth will come to life until the end of the Sabbath Millennium, by which time all will have had an opportunity as perfect humans with full knowledge to choose whom they will follow; God or Satan. (Revelation 20:7-10) Christ Jesus only had two things to accomplish during his short period on earth, the first was to choose for himself his anointed ‘little flock’ who rule with him as joint heirs in his kingdom; the second was to die as the corresponding ‘ransom’ for Adam’s transgression and so release ‘all’ mankind from the curse of Adamic death [death without a resurrection] and open the ‘way’ to the resurrection and the opportunity of a second chance of everlasting life on the earth as originally intended, in other words; salvation! Those who still favour Satan will enter the ‘second death’! (Revelation 21:8) There we are, the Bible in a nut-shell!

Yours in Truth,

Alexander

Herbert Armstrong?
UCOG?

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Re: How many will be saved?
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2014, 05:39:38 pm »
Herbert Armstrong?

Never heard of him!