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The prophetic chronological order of end time events
« on: December 26, 2016, 08:16:38 am »
1. The very next prophetic event to take place will be the rapture of the Church, consisting of everyone who believes in Jesus Christ as Lord, regardless of denomination, or no denomination at all, as taught by both Jesus as well as the apostle Paul. In Jn.14:2-4, 28; 1 Thes.4:13-18; 2 Thes.2:1-8; Rev.3:10 and 4:1-2. All those who died in Christ, to all those who are still alive at His coming in the clouds of the sky, for His Church, where we will all meet Jesus, from where He will take us to our Father in heaven, as He promised us in Jn.14:2-4 and 28.

2. The rapture of the Christian Church of Jesus Christ preceeds the revealing of the man of lawlessness/beast/antichrist, according to 2 Thes.2:3-4 and 7-8. Which then immediately sets off the seven years of tribulation, as recorded in Mt.24:4-31, Jesus amplification of Dan.9:27. Where the person who is all three of the "he's" in that verse, and the rider of the white horse in Rev.6:2, is revealed.  All of whom are the antichrist. It is at this stage of end times chronology the 70th Week of Dan.9:27 will begin.

3. The tribulation is revealed in Jer.30:4-7, referred to as "Jacob's Trouble," and in Dan.9:27, the 70th and final week of God's decree upon the destiny of Israel. In God's revelation to the prophet Daniel, through the angel Gabriel, the 70 "Weeks" [7 years each] of years He has decreed upon the entire destiny of Israel.  From the end of their 70 year exile, through the coming seven year tribulation.  The person who will set it of is the antichrist, the "he" who will establish a seven year covenant/agreement with them. Dan.9:27.

Jesus amplified and confirmed Daniel's 70th and final "Week," consisting of the abomination that causes desolation, in Mt.24:15 and 21, and in the counterparts of Mk.13 and in Lk.21.

4. The fig trees have sprouted leaves, we can see for ourselves and know that summer is near. Lk.21:29. Which began with the new nation of Israel, when it was reestablished on May 14, 1948.

5. The Christian Church of Jesus Christ is called up into heaven, symbolically illustrated by the apostle John in Rev.4:1-2, confirming 2 Thes.2:3 and 7-8.  As prophecied in Jn.14:2-4, 28 and 1 Thes.4:16-17, while Israel and all non-believers will go through the seven year tribulation. The Church is seen again at their marriage of the Lamb [Jesus Christ] to His Bride [The Church] in heaven, recorded in Rev.19:7-9, while the tribulation is taking place on earth.

6. Jesus will return, seven ears later, with His Church, following Him on white horses, dressed in fine linen, white and clean, which stands for the righteous acts of the saints [Verse 8 NIV]. In His Second Coming to the earth, with His angels, in His armies from heaven, in Zech.14:4-5, Mt.24:31, Jude 14, and Rev.19:14.

7. Jesus will fight  the battle of Armageddon, with His armies from heaven and end it, recorded in Rev.19:11-21.  And save the remnant of Israel, who then recognize Him as their Messiah, recorded in  Zech.12:10, and "all Israel will be saved," recorded in Rom.11:26...

8. The antichrist and the false prophet will be thrown into the lake of fire, and the armies of the ten horns [nations] are destroyed. Rev19:17-21. Jesus prophecy in Jn.10:16 will then be fulfilled, when there will be one fold [Israel and His Church] and one Shepherd. It is at this stage of end times chronology the 70 Weeks prophecy in Dan.9:27 will end.
 
9..Satan is caught and thrown into the Abyss for the same 1,000 years that Jesus will reign, in His kingdom here on the earth. Rev.20:6, confirming Mt.6:9-13;  Zech.6:12-13, described in Ez.40-47; Acts 1:6; 2:29-30 and 15:16.

10. The first resurrection takes place which consists of all those brought to the Lord during the tribulation by the 144,000 Israelite evangelists. They will be martyred during the tribulation, by the two beasts, the antichrist, the false prophet and the ten horns [nations] allied to them. Those who are brought to Christ by the 144,000 Israelite evangelists, in the absence of the departed Church during the tribulation, do not belong to the Christian Church [who will be raptured before the seven year tribulation begins, as addressed above]. They will be made priests of God and of Christ, and rule with Him for 1,000 years, after their resurrection, according to Rev.20:4 and 6.  They will be beheaded and pay with their lives for their testimony of Jesus, by the two beasts, the antichrist, the false prophet and the ten horns [nations] allied to them..

11. The Millennial Kingdom of Christ will consist of the one body of Christ, His Church,  all those who survived the tribulation, besides the resurrected martyrs, and the remnant of Israel. In numbers alone, from an estimated original 7 billion people, there will only be 2.3 billion remaining , of those who had to go through the tribulation, recorded in Zech.13:8. Life expectancy will be greatly increased. Isa.65:20 and 11:6-9.

12. Jesus 1,000 year kingdom  will begin at this point, according to Rev.20:6, here on the earth, on the throne of David, in the restored kingdom of Israel, confirming Acts 1:6; 2:29-30 and 15:16.  At the same time the 1,000 years Satan will be in the Abyss, according to Rev.20:1-3.  Jesus prophecy in Jn.10:16 will then be fulfilled, when there will be one fold, Israel and the Church, with one Shepherd. When Jesus Millennial kingdom has ended, 1,000 years later, at the Great White Throne judgment, recorded in Rev.20:11-15.  Satan will be released and go out to deceive the people and nations again in his last rebellion against God and gather a huge army who come against God's people, surrounding Jerusalem. But God will send fire and sulfur down from heaven, as He did at Sodom and Gomorrah, destroying them all, and throwing Satan into the lake of fire, forever, in Rev.20:7-10.

13. The second resurrection takes place according to Rev.20:5, that consists of all those who will be saved during the Millennial reign of Jesus here on the earth, as well as the Godless and wicked, at the Great White Throne Judgment, set up to judge them, right here on earth. The sea, death and Hades all give up their dead and will then be thrown into the lake of fire. Meaning, that all who were in the 'temporal holding tanks' of Sheol, Hades and Hell will be removed to face judgment, along with death itself, disposed of forever. For all those who participate in the second resurrection, if their name is not found in the book of life, will be thrown into the lake of fire forever. Rev.20:11-15, and Dan.12:2 and Mt.25:46 will be fulfilled.

14. The old heaven and earth will pass away, recorded in Rev.21:1 [Destroyed by fire according to 2 Pet.3:7] and God will provide an all new heaven and earth, and the new eternal city of Jerusalem will descend from heaven, 1,500 miles long and as wide as it is long and as high as it is wide, Rev.21:1-16.
 15. The rest of chapters 21 and 22 allude to a description of the coming eternal city and life of all believers who will be with the Lord forever.

 
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Re: The prophetic chronological order of end time events
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2016, 06:11:59 pm »
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4. The fig trees have sprouted leaves, we can see for ourselves and know that summer is near. Lk.21:29. Which began with the new nation of Israel, when it was reestablished on May 14, 1948.

I believe that until all of Jerusalem is under complete control of the Jews, it has not been reestablished. IMHO

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Re: The prophetic chronological order of end time events
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2016, 07:08:28 am »
I believe that until all of Jerusalem is under complete control of the Jews, it has not been reestablished. IMHO


Hi Bob,  IMHO, full control of Jerusalem will not take place until Jesus second coming, as recorded in Rev.19:11-21.  When He will fight the two beasts, i.e. the Antichrist, the False Prophet and the ten horns/nations allied to them.  With His armies from heaven, in the battle of Armageddon.  Throw the Antichrist and False Prohet into the lake of fire and destroy the armies of the ten horns/nations, ending the seven years of tribulation.  Reestablish the kingdom of Israel, fulfilling Acts 1:6; 2:29-30; 15:16; Zech.6:12-13, described in Ez.40-47, and Rev.20:6.

The moment Israel wee to make ny attempt to take over the temple mount from the Muslims, it would start the conflict described in Rev.14:14-20 and Zech.14, immediately.


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Re: The prophetic chronological order of end time events
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2016, 09:13:11 am »
 So you believe that the Muslims will hold the temple mount from this day until the second coming?

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Re: The prophetic chronological order of end time events
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2016, 02:37:46 pm »

Hi Bob,  IMHO, full control of Jerusalem will not take place until Jesus second coming, as recorded in Rev.19:11-21.  When He will fight the two beasts, i.e. the Antichrist, the False Prophet and the ten horns/nations allied to them.  With His armies from heaven, in the battle of Armageddon.  Throw the Antichrist and False Prohet into the lake of fire and destroy the armies of the ten horns/nations, ending the seven years of tribulation.  Reestablish the kingdom of Israel, fulfilling Acts 1:6; 2:29-30; 15:16; Zech.6:12-13, described in Ez.40-47, and Rev.20:6.

The moment Israel wee to make ny attempt to take over the temple mount from the Muslims, it would start the conflict described in Rev.14:14-20 and Zech.14, immediately.


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Hello Defacto

After 3 ½ years the Antichrist will stop the sacrifice and offering in the temple declaring that he is God.

He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him" (Daniel 9:27).

Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4).


Are you telling us that the Jews will be sacrificing and giving offerings in a Muslin temple?

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Re: The prophetic chronological order of end time events
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2016, 06:51:40 am »
So you believe that the Muslims will hold the temple mount from this day until the second coming?


Hi Bob,

The "he" [Antichrist] in Dan.9:27 will confirm a covenant/firm agreement, with many for one week.  In which from prophecy, Israel will be able to build the tribulation temple described at this site in another thread.  According to Mosaic Law, it ust be built in Jerusalem, nowhere else.  According to prophecy, that temple will indeed be built, as recorded in 2 Thess.2:4 as well as in Rev.11:1-2, in addition to Dan.9:27 and Mt.24:15 and Mk.13:14.  In the middle of the week, the Antichrist will break his covenant with Israel and take full control of the temple Israel built, calling himself God, remaining in his control until Jesus returns in His second coming, as recorded in Rev.19:11-21.

My apology.  I did not properly word this prophetic time frame previously.


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Re: The prophetic chronological order of end time events
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2016, 07:29:57 am »
Hello Defacto

After 3 ½ years the Antichrist will stop the sacrifice and offering in the temple declaring that he is God.

He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him" (Daniel 9:27).

Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4).


Are you telling us that the Jews will be sacrificing and giving offerings in a Muslin temple?


Hi biblebuf,

Yesw indeed, that is an accurate assessment of the Scriptures except for one point.  In 2 Thess.2:3, the word used in present day Bibles, such as rebellion. falling away and apostasy are mistranslations from that of the historic originl as documented in the following, and how it is confirmed in verses 7-8:


2 Thess.2:1-8: The precise timing of the rapture of the Church:
 
"Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to Him, we ask you, brothers, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the Day of the Lord [The 70th and final Week/seven year tribulation of Dan.9:27] has already come." 2 Thes.2:1-2. Which is a direct reference to 1 Thes.4:17 and the theme of Paul's entire pre-trib rapture message in 2 Thes.2:1-8. When we will be CAUGHT UP TOGETHER WITH THEM IN THE CLOUDS TO MEET THE LORD IN THE AIR. [Parenthetics mine].

The "Day of the Lord" Paul refers to in verse 2, alludes to Dan.9:27, when God will intervene into the affairs of man for the last time, culminating in the second coming of Jesus to the earth. In that passage of Scripture, the Day of the Lord is triggered by the "he" who "confirms a covenant [An agreement] for one Week" [The Day of the Lord/ 70th and final Week/seven year tribulation], who is the antichrist. The second, and same "he," who stops Israel from the offerings and sacrificing in the temple of God, and the third, and same "he," who breaks his covenant in the middle of the Week [After 3.5 of the 7 year total], and sets up the abomination of desolation Jesus referred to in Mt.24:15, in His Olivet Discourse, about the sign of His second coming, and of the end of the age.

In verse 3: "Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that Day [The Day of the Lord, the 70th and final Week, the seven year tribulation] will not come, until the "apostasia" [Greek term in which the original translation was "to depart," or "departure," meaning, the rapture of the Church] occurs and the man of lawlessness [The antichrist, and all three of the "he's" in Dan.9:27] is revealed [Who triggers the Day of the Lord/ the 70th and final Week/ the seven year tribulation], the man doomed to destruction." Which reveals the "apostasia" [Departure] will take place before the antichrist is revealed, who triggers the 70th Week/seven year tribulation. Confirmed in verses 7 and 8 below.

Translation History of apostasia and discessio in 2 Thess.2:3: By Thomas Ice, PhD.
 
The first seven English translations of apostasia all rendered the noun as either " departure" or " departing." They are as follows: Wycliffe Bible (1384); Tyndale Bible (1526); Coverdale Bible (1535); Cranmer Bible (1539); Breeches Bible (1576); Beza Bible (1583); Geneva Bible (1608) . This supports the notion that the word truly means " departure." In fact, Jerome' s Latin translation known as the Vulgate from around the time of 325 A.D. renders apostasia with the " word discessio, meaning ' departure.' Why was the King James Version the first to depart from the established translation of "departure" in 1611 A.D.? [It is more than likely due to overzealous RCC scribes who altered the original wording of verse 3. to accommodate their teachings of Amillenialism, which rejects both the pre-trib rapture of the Church as well as Jesus Millennial reign her on earth].

 Theodore Beza, the Swiss reformer was the first to transliterate apostasia and create a new word, rather than translate it as others had done. The translators of the King James Version were the first to introduce the new rendering of apostasia as " falling away." Most English translators have followed the KJV and Beza in departing from translating apostasia as " departure." No reason was ever given.

 "He [The antichrist] will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God." Verse 4. [The abomination of desolation, confirming Dan.9:27 and Mt.24:15]. See also 2 Thes.2:4.

The rapture of the Church and verse 3 confirmed:

In verse 7: "For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will conterienue to do so until he [The saints - Church] is taken out of the way."

 The "he" who will be taken out of the way, is the one body of Christ, who bear the Holy Spirit within each of us [Eph.1:13-14], the Church of Jesus Christ. The very same as those who will participate in the "apostasia," the "departure," [the rapture] of the Church, in verse 3. Immediately following that:

In verse 8: "And then the lawless one [The antichrist] will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of His mouth and destroy by the splendor of His coming." Vs 8. [See Rev.19:17-21].

 The antichrist is found in all three of the "he's" in Dan. 9:27, confirmed by Jesus in Mt.24:15; Mk.13:14 and by Paul, in 2 Thes.2:3, 4 and 8.


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Re: The prophetic chronological order of end time events
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2016, 05:07:11 pm »
Hello Defacto

FYI I use the NAS or HCS as a study bible.

Your post does not really address when the new Temple will be built. We know for a fact that it has to be built before the rapture, and this is indisputable.

Revelation 11:1 Then there was given me a measuring rod like a staff; and someone said, "Get up and measure the temple of God and the altar, and those who worship in it. 2 "Leave out the court which is outside the temple and do not measure it, for it has been given to the nations; and they will tread under foot the holy city for forty-two  months. 3 "And I will grant authority to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for twelve  hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth."

 Just taking a wild guess that the outside court will be given to the Muslims for place of worship. Could this be part of the two state solution that the United Nations is so intent to impose on Israel?  But there is no doubt that before the 1260 days start the Temple has already been rebuilt.

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 P. S. Please do not turn this into a discussion about replacement theology, that is replacing the Temple with the Church.

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Re: The prophetic chronological order of end time events
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2016, 08:05:43 pm »
Hello Defacto

FYI I use the NAS or HCS as a study bible.

Your post does not really address when the new Temple will be built. We know for a fact that it has to be built before the rapture, and this is indisputable.

Revelation 11:1 Then there was given me a measuring rod like a staff; and someone said, "Get up and measure the temple of God and the altar, and those who worship in it. 2 "Leave out the court which is outside the temple and do not measure it, for it has been given to the nations; and they will tread under foot the holy city for forty-two  months. 3 "And I will grant authority to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for twelve  hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth."

 Just taking a wild guess that the outside court will be given to the Muslims for place of worship. Could this be part of the two state solution that the United Nations is so intent to impose on Israel?  But there is no doubt that before the 1260 days start the Temple has already been rebuilt.

Shalom
BB


 P. S. Please do not turn this into a discussion about replacement theology, that is replacing the Temple with the Church.


Hi biblebuf,

The purpose of my last post you responded to  above, was to expose the present day mistranslation of 2 Thess.2:3 in our present day Bibles, as revealed through the translation history of it.  There was no intent to address the issue of the two temples yet to be built in Jerusalem as covered in my OP in that thread was.

According to the Bible, the outer court of the tribulation temple will be given to the Gentiles for 42 months, 1260 days, same difference, as all of mankind are called, except the Jews, not only the Muslims.  In this particular case, it will be the ten horns/nation armies allied to the Antichrist and the False Prophet

IMHO, there will never be a Palestinian state provided by Israel. The UN attempt to make Israel return all the land they won in the '67 war is ridiculous.  What country who has won land during warfare has ever had to give it back to whom they won it from?


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IMHO, there will never be a Palestinian state provided by Israel. The UN attempt to make Israel return all the land they won in the '67 war is ridiculous.  What country who has won land during warfare has ever had to give it back to whom they won it from?

Looks like Netanyahu is willing to do it.