Bible Talk > Sound doctrine
Who teaches sound doctrine?
Alexander Winslow:
It is very disturbing these days to find that so many individuals believes in Satan's doctrine of the Trinity which introduces a teaching of equality when the Bible teaches balance.
Balance is the 'key' to creation, Almighty God is the only spirit being with no beginning and no end. (Psalm 90:2) This is followed by the Word, the first-born of all creation who is the Alpha and the Omega, while everything else is created through him on instruction from Almighty God (Proverbs 8:22-31)
This creative formula is then followed through with the creation of the Cherubim, the Seraphim and then the angels. The same procedure was later followed for the earth, the creation of Adam the first perfect man, then Eve and the rest of the earthly creatures all in accordance with its kind.
Although each kind is equal with itself, no kind is equal; with another. So the mere suggestion of a trinity where kind has suddenly mixed with kind, spirit with human, this is specifically in opposition to God's Creative Law and the result is a hybrid, mongrel species!
Observe the watch, if all its parts were made equal , when wound up it would certainly run like a clock-work toy; but it would never keep time!
Alexander
Moss:
--- Quote ---Balance is the 'key' to creation, Almighty God is the only spirit being with no beginning and no end. (Psalm 90:2) This is followed by the Word, the first-born of all creation who is the Alpha and the Omega, while everything else is created through him on instruction from Almighty God (Proverbs 8:22-31)
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Revelation 22
12 "Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done . 13 "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end." 14 Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter by the gates into the city. 15 Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices lying. 16 "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star." 17 The Spirit and the bride say, "Come." And let the one who hears say, "Come." And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who wishes take the water of life without cost. 18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book;
--- Quote ---Although each kind is equal with itself, no kind is equal; with another. So the mere suggestion of a trinity where kind has suddenly mixed with kind, spirit with human, this is specifically in opposition to God's Creative Law and the result is a hybrid, mongrel species!
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The Almighty God is after all the Almighty God and can even make a 'mongrel species'.
Mark 5:15 NAS
They came to Jesus and observed the man who had been demon-possessed sitting down, clothed and in his right mind, the very man who had had the "legion "; and they became frightened.
--- Quote ---A good example is when two people were playing chess and each one was playing it different to the other. Conclusion; either one is right and one wrong, or both are wrong. Solution? The book of rules is then consulted and when established, both end up playing correctly. The Bible is our book of rules, but unless adhered to; we will all end up confused like Christendom!
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Who's right?
John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. 5 The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
6 There came a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness, to testify about the Light, so that all might believe through him. 8 He was not the Light, but he came to testify about the Light. 9 There was the true Light which, coming into the world, enlightens every man. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His own, and those who were His own did not receive Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Alexander Winslow:
Hello Moss,
Good to converse with you. I am not sure why you have quoted Revelation 22 which is the ultimate conclusion of all things after the completion of the task set for the New Jerusalem.
Your second comment is a little disturbing and shows a lack of understanding with regard to Almighty God's creative formula which as he informs us through the scriptures that all things in creation are each created according to its kind.
So as each is created according the its own DNA pattern, we note from scripture that there is no deviation from this. Therefore as a 'mongrel' species would mean deviating from this set arrangement, Almighty God being a God not of confusion but of peace. ((1 Cor. 14:33))
In reply to my example of the correctness of the game of chess, you ask: "Who's right?" Then continue to cite John 1:1 from an erroneous translation.
"1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." KJV?
The correct rendering of this scripture from the original Greek is: In a beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and a god was the Word. (John 1:1) (Wilson's Emphatic Diaglott - V20b Vat Ms 1209 one of the oldest in existence)
Scripture: John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with Almighty GOD and the Word was a created God. (John 1:1) NMTCS
Scripture: John 1:1* In the very beginning, there was the Word. The Word was with God and the Word was mighty and powerful. [2001 Translation]
The next verse 2 which you quote actually confirms this when it states: "2 He was in the beginning with God." So to be in the beginning 'with' God and not as God prove that thay are two 'separate' individuals; especially as Almighty God was in existence long before the creation of the Word.
Also as you correctly quote: "14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth."
Yes, the 'Word' became flesh; not Almighty God.
So just like the rule book in chess, the correct translation of God's word puts all things in the right perspective.
The rest of the scriptures which you quote are excellent, but you seem not to understand their meaning.
As the true Shekinah Christ is the light of the world, that is; the light of understanding. As he was born a Jew, he came to his own, the house of Israel to give them the opportunity of accepting the offer of entering the kingdom of heaven; but the majority refused.
But those that did accept him, such as the Apostles, they became sons of Almighty God by adoption; by which they declared "ABBA, Father!" (Romans 8:15)
Alexander
kjw47:
--- Quote from: admin on June 09, 2013, 05:26:58 pm ---This is a bible based board and with that in mind can we debate the deferent conflicting doctrines we see within the Christian community?
1 Timothy 4:6 NAS
[A Good Minister's Discipline] In pointing out these things to the brethren, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, constantly nourished on the words of the faith and of the sound doctrine which you have been following.
1 Timothy 6:3 NAS
If anyone advocates a different doctrine and does not agree with sound words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ, and with the doctrine conforming to godliness,
2 Timothy 4:3 NAS
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine ; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires,
Titus 1:9 NAS
holding fast the faithful word which is in accordance with the teaching, so that he will be able both to exhort in sound doctrine and to refute those who contradict.
Titus 2:1 NAS
[Duties of the Older and Younger] But as for you, speak the things which are fitting for sound doctrine.
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A house divided will not stand-Mark 3:24-26=33.000 trinity religions----- 1Cor 1:10--united in all thought--no division. ---it is clear God had a single religion in the ot---Jesus started a single religion--one religion, one truth, one faith, one God. this God--John 4:22-24--Jesus' God and Father--John 20:17, Rev 3:12---the rest is an illusion of satans will-2Cor 4:4
Moss:
--- Quote from: kjw47 on March 13, 2015, 03:06:58 pm ---
A house divided will not stand-Mark 3:24-26=33.000 trinity religions----- 1Cor 1:10--united in all thought--no division. ---it is clear God had a single religion in the ot---Jesus started a single religion--one religion, one truth, one faith, one God. this God--John 4:22-24--Jesus' God and Father--John 20:17, Rev 3:12---the rest is an illusion of satans will-2Cor 4:4
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Num 6:18 'The Nazirite shall then shave his dedicated head of hair at the doorway of the tent of meeting, and take the dedicated hair of his head and put it on the fire which is under the sacrifice of peace offerings.
Act 18:18 Paul, having remained many days longer, took leave of the brethren and put out to sea for Syria, and with him were Priscilla and Aquila. In Cenchrea he had his hair cut, for he was keeping a vow.
Act 21:24 take them and purify yourself along with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave their heads; and all will know that there is nothing to the things which they have been told about you, but that you yourself also walk orderly, keeping the Law.
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