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clark thompson

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Jude 8-11
« on: August 18, 2013, 04:51:52 am »
Jude 1:8-11

King James Version (KJV)

8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.


Jude 1:8-11

New King James Version (NKJV)

8 Likewise also these dreamers defile the flesh, reject authority, and speak evil of dignitaries. 9 Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” 10 But these speak evil of whatever they do not know; and whatever they know naturally, like brute beasts, in these things they corrupt themselves. 11 Woe to them! For they have gone in the way of Cain, have run greedily in the error of Balaam for profit, and perished in the rebellion of Korah.

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These are my thoughts please share yours.

8 These men stand against the truth and have no respect for authority. There are some people that always want to cause trouble and we should not ecourage this as believers.

9 We do not need to accuse anyone because they are all guilty before Christ all we have to do is speak the name of the Lord and leave. Moses was buried in a place of unknown location to prevent people from making it a shrine as they would have over time. Satan had a problem with this being done because he also knew they would soon start worshiping at Moses' grave and this is what he wanted to put strive between them and God. Satan wants to seperate people from God by their sins.

10 There are those people out there that make one wonder how can a person do such things but, when we let sin take us over anything evil is possible. Without first knowing the Lord we can not know what good truly is.

11 The sin of Cain may have been pride and was murder as well. Balaam knew if the people of Israel fell for the flesh and whores of the temple, then they would turn from there God and then they could be defeated.  Korah wanted to be in postion the God did not want Him to be in and he was willing to do whatever it took to get there even if it wasn't God's will to be done.


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Moss

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Re: Jude 8-11
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2013, 09:48:11 am »
It is interesting that Michael the Archangel refuses to bring judgment on Satan but instead refers to the judgment brought by God.

There are some that believe, specifically Jehovah's Witnesses, that Christ is Michael the Archangel. But of course that can't be.

2 Timothy 4:1 NAS
 I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by His appearing and His kingdom


biblebuf

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Re: Jude 8-11
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2013, 12:47:01 pm »
8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

Like Moss in your previous Jude post, these are described in Rom 1.

9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

Michael did not make accusations for this is what Satan does to us, he is the accuser. Neither should we accuse but we should separate from them.

What should we do?

Matthew 4:1-11 and Luke 4:1-13, After Jesus was baptized by John, he was led into the wilderness to be temped by Satan. Each temptation was rebuked by Jesus quoting scripture.

11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

They should Heed this warning, but they won't.

clark thompson

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Re: Jude 8-11
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2013, 05:12:31 pm »
I agree with both of you.